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This blog has posted unequivocal clues pointing to the identity of Jack the Ripper for several months. No one has come forth with his name so having said the name time and again in very thinly disguised code here it is in plain text. Jack the Ripper was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. There I have said it publicly on the internet for everyone to see. With that simple revelation you can now easily decipher why each of the clues point to one and only one person, Conan Doyle.
On April 15, 2009 I wrote, … I am going to go sort of slow on these clues to the identity of Jack, about one a week or so, because they are so obvious that once you see them there isn’t much of a game anymore. It is going to be all of the usual stuff, it’s just that once you know what clues to look for Jack’s identity becomes glaringly obvious. By the way his name is NOT on the usual list of suspects. That will soon be upgraded.
There may be more representations of the fictional character portrayed below than any other fictional character except perhaps Dracula. More on that later. For our Christmas present 2009 Hollywood is about to have yet another screen representation of his quirky sleuth Sherlock Holmes.
HOMELESS A SUSPICIOUS CHARACTER
WITH THE VIGILANCE COMMITTE IN THE EAST-END
Published 13 Oct 1888 Illustrated London News
Jack the Ripper pursued by Sherlock Holmes and Dr. James Watson
Here it is spelled out for you in the Illustrated London News three weeks before Mary Kelly’s murder. Homeless = Holmes S or would you prefer a picture of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. James Watson printed in the newspaper with his name under the picture? There he is, Sherlock in his iconic deerstalker hat and his companion Watson in his bowler hat. The picture above was published before they would be recognized by the public even by Doyle’s own graphic artists which at that time did the picture seen below. Without the magnifying glass up to his eye and the word Rache Sherlock would be unrecognizable. Notice he isn’t in a deerstalker cap but the cape seen in both pictures precedes other superheros by decades.
Do you recognise the 1888 image of Sherlock Holmes?
Why is Jack the Ripper still famous? This seems like a foolish question until you think about for a minute. Once the Ripperologists start thinking clearly about the clues it becomes obvious who this very unusual person had to be. Here it is more than one hundred and twenty years after his murders and yet, Jack the Ripper is still famous. That simple fact is very informative. Why? Because it is the sign of a world-class story-teller. There have been tens of millions of homicides, including military ones, since 1888 but we still remember these five individual murders. Why? Because they are interesting! That’s a clue because most murders are just tragic deaths and soon forgotten.
A photograph of the Jack the Ripper in the victim’s eye. Who in the world would come up with such a ludicrous suggestion for discovering a killer except for a very clever someone giving clues—a person whose first and last name both refer to the eye. Conan as in con to look—as in conning tower of an airport also to con means to fool someone. And secondly the name Doyle in the french language means of the eye. Perhaps someone who had published many articles about photography or perhaps a budding eye doctor with an eye magnifying glass would offer such a silly suggestion. Doyle fits all of these unusual clues.
Dear Boss – Jack the Ripper It is unchallengeable that with the publication of the Dear Boss letter this serial killer became known as Jack the Ripper. Therefore this is a critical clue.
Dear Boss letter – page 2
This letter is self-consciously challenging, funny, and cute. It is clear that the author wants to be known and respected and is seeking this rather desperate way to gain fame. You will soon hear of me with my funny little games. Of course he didn’t want to be buckled or he would be executed for these crimes so he couldn’t sign his personal name. Or could he? Perhaps he could if he used a slight code — ha ha
The most famous words in this letter, Jack the Ripper, Dear Boss and ha ha, are his name slightly encoded in the beginning words and in the two concluding salutary closings. The name Jack the Ripper, easily converts into — Dr. Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle’s name and title. It is the initial letters of his name Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle, and the word Doctor. He rarely used the name Ignatius but it was on his birth certificate and he did attend a Jesuit school, founded by Saint Ignatius Loyola.
The English letters I and J are often interchangeable as in the spelling of John as Ian and thus his initials JAC becomes Ignatius Arthur Conan and The Ripper becomes D Ripper. The word the is pronounced and spelled d or de in most European languages and medical surgeons are sometimes jocularly called rippers.
Conan Doyle was a practicing medical doctor at the time of the Ripper murders and he goads the police with the post script, They say I’m a doctor now ha ha.
Doctor Conan Doyle – Licensed to kill – Letter to his mother upon his graduation from medical school
Licensed to kill, isn’t the letter most son’s would send to their mother upon graduating from medical school but it implies his rather unusual attitude towards homicide. It is found in, Arthur Conan Doyle: A Life in Letters
The letter in red above is known as the Dear Boss letter and once you are looking for Arthur Conan Doyle’s name in the most prominent places it becomes easy to find. These clue words I am pointing out are not randomly chosen words but are the most famous and most prominent words in the letter.
Dear Boss = De as in of or by — ar as in Arthur — and Boss as in a lump a bump a condyle. Thus we have — by ar condyle = By Arthur Conan Doyle. The very first words in the letter is the well-known proper name of the sender of the letter and thus the self-proclaimed killer and so too is the nom de plume Jack the Ripper at the end, Conan Doyle’s public name’s initials and title.
Thus the two most well-known things about this letter are found to be Conan Doyle’s name slightly encoded. There are more, for example:
The concluding letters of the post script with the underlining, ha ha are also a signature by the author of this letter. They commemorate his famous political cartoonist grandfather who used the secret identity HB signed at the bottom of his drawings. John Doyle used these signature letters for decades without being identified. Except in this case the Doyle in question is named Arthur so instead of HB he used HA and for emphasis ha ha is a goading joke to the police!
Jack the Ripper had a chameleon personality. Today I want to emphasize that Jack had a chameleon like personality. He was able to compartmentalized his thoughts and behavior and to present the personality which suited his purpose at the moment. Therefore he was a consummate actor as well as being a cold-blooded killer and skilled butcher. London in late 1888 was in a state of panic about the previous murders and the helplessness of the police. Yet, even at this time when everyone, especially women at night, would be desperately cautious he had such highly developed acting abilities that he was able to lure women into a place where he could not only kill them but immediately butcher their dead bodies. It takes a very unusual person with unusual motives to do all of those things and do them well. One curious item was that not only did Jack do reasonably commendable surgery on these women who were living and laughing only a few short seconds before but he did it in the dark and very quickly too because the patrol policeman was coming by any minute. It is obvious therefore that Jack was a very talented man with morbid courage and abundant experience with swift killing and butchery. That is obvious but these are also obvious clues to his identity because so very few people possess all of these abilities. Doyle had them all. Did I mention that this was obvious to anyone who knows Conan Doyle’s life history.
Doyle spent nine months on a whaling ship, his last year in medical school, where he was the ship’s doctor. In his biography he says he spent a lot of time killing seals and gutting there still quivering bodies and skinning them immediately. He said it was difficult at first, killing these lovable little creatures, but he got used to it and skilled at it. A handy set of traits for Jack to be able to kill women and then skillfully cut out particular organs, quickly — in the dark, with the police looking for him. There wouldn’t be many surgeons or butchers who could do that — quickly, in the dark, without getting scared and cutting their own fingers.
Jack the Ripper was a consummate doer of evil. With this post I gave away Conan Doyle’s initials plus a vowel in the title. A CONsummate DOer of evil. Who in the world could and would commit the evil acts which Jack the Ripper committed? The only possible answer is a consummate doer of evil. How can one claim otherwise? This man reveled in evil deeds and is famous for it and for making the evil of the deeds interesting to the public in his Sherlock Holmes stories and many others. In this case he was so evil that he chose women for his attacks that had done very little that was criminal or even more than slightly immoral.
Why should Jack have brought about these exotic attacks? The reasons are pretty obvious: he wanted to be famous and he was willing to take real risks to gain that fame. He wanted to gain personal fame for the murders but he didn’t want to be identified immediately or he would be hung. He wanted his personal name to be revealed long after he had died when the fame associated with his previously known public personal name might be fading. He wanted a way to revivify his name and fame—to be reborn again and again and to live on after a normal physical death. Thus later he became noted for being a spiritualist and spending much of his fortune on spreading the word about eternal life after death of the physical body.
This post is the beginning of fulfilling Doyle’s fondest wish. He wanted to commit the perfect crime, to make the crime famous and to have his personal name associated with that perfect crime and thus to expand and retain his fame. He wanted to be famous not just for a few weeks but for his entire lifetime, long beyond that and even into an after life. He wanted to reveal his name a long time after he had died a normal physical death in old age so that the getting away with murders for such a long time would enhance his reputation and fame even more. Jack the Ripper is screaming his name at YOU and I! Even though he died physically July 7, 1930 and is lying peacefully in his grave, Steel True – Blade Straight , an appropriate epitaph for Jack The Ripper, engraved in stone over his body. He wanted you to know who he was and to revere him even more than you already do. He left a trail of crimes and hoaxes which will not be discovered for centuries if ever. They lie waiting to be discovered by those sleuths who can untangle the skein of clues he left. I found one hoax but left it buried in the California hills. Why not? Until the funny little games are revealed there would be true believers claiming it was a great, history changing, find.
Why can’t people trust their own senses? One of the strangest phenomena I have observed about human beings, at least the ones I know personally, is their inability to trust the observations of their own senses. That quality becomes very apparent when I discuss something so obvious as the various clues in the series of crimes labeled, “Jack the Ripper”. The fact is that the perpetrator of those crimes signed them with his own personal name and it can be readily seen by anyone who knows that person’s name and yet when ordinary people see the name they will quickly say, it isn’t there. That I am imagining it, and when I point it out, even though they see it and they will say that I am projecting my preconceived thoughts onto this 121 year old piece of paper. Oh, yes they will say, it is there but that is just a strange coincidence and it doesn’t really mean anything. Yes it is there repeatedly but if you look around you can find any person’s name on the document, if you look hard enough. Perhaps that is true, but I say, this isn’t just a random picking out of letters helter-skelter from around the document. No, it is picking out the most famous words in the document and the very first and last words. It is like picking out the most famous word in a famous novel of the time, say, Dracula and then saying that that exact word is the clue word to who wrote that book, (it is generally acknowledged by Bram Stoker authorities that he didn’t write it) that that word is the unknown person’s personal public name known to everyone. Shortly after the Jack the Ripper murders there was a famous fictional killer who lived in exactly the same address location as the most famous Ripper victim, Mary Kelly, and his name was Dracula. It’s like suggesting that Dracula was the murderer of Mary Kelly.
Sherlock Holmes, Dracula, Jack the Ripper and Vincent Van Gogh What a famous bunch of cut-ups all doing pretty much the same thing at the same time. Here it is some 121 years later and those folks are still famous for their sharp “wits”. Van Gogh once used his upon himself and cut off his left ear and gave it to a hard-working girlfriend Rachel for a Christmas present. Now that’s a weird gift to find under your Christmas tree! Sherlock Holmes, a fictional character like Dracula, seems unrelated until you notice that the very first word of this entire canon of sixty stories is pictured in the word Rache which is linked early in the story by the not too bright police detective to the word Rachel. The first edition of the book Study in Scarlet was in the bookstores at the same time these other events were in play. There was another famous cut up at the time, John Doyle Lee who was executed for slashing the throat of a girl named Rachel at Mountain Meadows, Utah, the site where Drebber gets his start. The blood on the wall forming the word Rache was taken from the slashed throat of the victim, Enoch (James) Drebber (Having read this far, you should now be suspicious of I am es D Repper) — Jack the Ripper was slashing throats for his Rache! at the same time. And so was Vincent for his Rachel and John Doyle Lee and of course Dracula had a well known interest in women’s bloody throats.
“Jack the Ripper left no clues”?! Ha! Ha! What a joke !!! Here it is 121 years after the Jack the Ripper events in London’s Whitechapel district and millions of man-hours have been wasted in searching for him and still the authorities claim they have no clues. The simple truth is that the murder left an absolute blizzard of clues and these millions of sleuths have been too dull-witted to see what is placed before their eyes, in plain sight. It’s rather similar to The Purloined Letter by Edgar Allan Poe. Will they be annoyed with me for spoiling their fun? Ha Ha
There is a long list of Jack the Ripper suspects in the Wikipedia. That is the current state of the Ripper art and it is unfortunate that there are many decent people being accused of these vicious crimes. What is particularly sad is that all of these Jack the Ripper suspects have had their memory egregiously sullied but they are all innocent, at least of these crimes. Below is a modern artists mockup reported on MSNBC from original witness descriptions and other photos of suspects.
Jack the Ripper age late 20s
Arthur Conan Doyle
Now you know how to spot the tell-tale clues. You know my methods, now apply them. Apply them to the prime suspects of the Jack the Ripper murders who themselves had mysterious deaths. Doyle liked to follow the rules and keep things in proper balance.
Jack the Ripper was A Conan Doyle ~ !
[update: 2012/03/15 – Another similar set of proofs implicating Sir Conan Doyle in the creation of the now recognized as fake, Francis Drake’s Plate of Brass. The foundation document of the British Empire.]
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hi there,i have just found your website after looking at tours for jack the ripper,and realising that conan doyle wrote his first book about holmes the same year as the jack the ripper killed his first victim.i had a strange feeling in my stomach,and goosebumps on my neck.i then went into google and found your site,i have enjoyed sherlock holmes for many years,and have never ever thought about this connection,as probably not many people have.i have read the books,and seen the films.i am now gonna really look into this.fantastic site,many thanks.gary.
First, addressing this comment: The first Sherlock Holmes story ever published, A Study in Scarlet, was released in November of 1887; nearly a full year before the first officially recognized victim and before all but one of the potential unofficial victims.
Now, addressing the farce of this post; I’m halfway through this drivel and already the author makes at LEAST two fatally erroneous assessments.
#1: The ‘infamous’ deerstalker hat made no appearance in the stories themselves, and was only introduced in a 1904 illustration by Sidney Pagent for the Boscome Valley Mystery.
#2: A cursory examination of the ‘Dear Boss’ letter and A. Conan Doyle’s writings reveal that Doyle CANNOT be the author of the DB letter; the handwriting elements are COMPLETELY different. >_>
I also love the Dan Brown method of coercing a deduction out of forced symbology a and imagined cryptograms. Nice job.
So next time, before you apply half-assed observations and faulty deductions; ask yourself, WWSHD?
Thank you for your interest. The unequivocal clues are the pieces of evidence, The Dear Boss letter itself, The Illustrated News picture of a man in a deerstalker hat pursuing JTR, Doyle’s letter to his mother claiming a license to kill. These are the type of facts which I call unequivocal clues – it is the relationship of these clues which I cite which is where the interpretations comes into play, but the clues themselves are as well known as anything in this case and I didn’t make them up or lie about their existence. They are facts well known to anyone who knows anything about this case. It was Doyle twisting and emphasizing these facts to fit his needs and I am only exposing what appear to be his clues, for all you Ripperologists to consider.
To Williams’s #2 point about handwriting…it is easy to disguise cursive authorship when you start a piece, but inevitably the longer you write the more likely you are to make a mistake in disguising your style. In other words, you should work backwards and see if the last paragraph matches your source document. In the last paragraph the international “n” and “e” look quite like Doyle’s handwriting. I’m sure there are other similarities that a professional handwriting person could spot. Doyle was Jack and he did it to manufacture an audience to buy his dumb-ass stories he knew most people would ignore. He was like the fireman who starts a brush fire on the sly so he can be a hero and put it out.
Sorry,. I meant “internal”, not “international.” Also meant “William’s” and not “Williams’s”.
It does happen people that are the bad guy solve mysteries (blaming another) as you mention to make him self look like the hero. Classic example; Doyle was involved in the Great Wyrley Outrages. George Edalji, was tried and convicted for the eighth attack, on a pit pony, and sentenced to seven years with hard labour. There was a series of slashings of horses, cows and sheep. But who could have done this? Doyle the hero comes to the rescue of George Edalji. believing all the while the man was innocent and most likely at the time the only man that did believe him innocent apart from his kin. “Sir Arthur Conan Doyle of Sherlock Holmes fame was persuaded to “turn detective” to prove the man’s innocence. This he achieved after eight months of work. Edalji was exonerated by a Home Office committee of enquiry, although no compensation was awarded.” Could it have been Doyle, who committed these crimes. After all the person that was eventually found guilty was of unsound mind. We know people with mental illness sometimes confess to crimes they think they might have committed or believe they did when in fact had done nothing of the sort. When we think of all the people in Victorian times to be wrongly convicted why does Doyle find this case so interesting. Miles away from London. Could it be that he was the person, the brutal animal ripper after? all he was plenty capable.
I have maintained for decades that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was Jack the Ripper. 1.) Jack had medical training, ACD was an MD. 2) Jack was very familiar with Masonic signals, ACD was a high degreee Mason. 3.) Jack had a powerful hatred for prostitutes, ACD’ son was ruined by a prostitute, etc. etc. etc. Someday soon I will do research on where ACD was at the time of each of the murders…. but there is much more linking the two.
Only ACD’s son hadn’t even been born at the time…
It was Doyle’s father in sanitariums it is believed from madness due to Syphilis from prostitutes. Doyle did his thesis on it.
I don’t care who Doyle really was. I still enjoy reading his stuff.
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I am not from the UK but I have lived in the UK for 15 years and moved on to the continent. I read a short news article a few days ago (on Yahoo) about when the first Sherlock Holmes story was written, in 1887; one year before Jack struck. I thought that was curious and wondered whether ACD was ever a doctor. So I googled his name and guess what?
Just about answers it for me.
One hell of publicity stunt!
think about what you are saying here: who on earth living at the time linked Doyle to the murders, you think? if so he’d be questioned by police. there is no mention anywhere at the time indicating suspicion against Doyle. how do you guys come up with this type of theory? can you have a publicity stunt without linking it to something or somebody?
The bit in his history where he worked gutting seals in the Pacific did it for me. If you’ve ever worked on a production line, you get rather quick at what you’re doing. He also published a book in 1899 called The Brown Hand, where one of the characters vivisects people and takes the victims organs as trophies.
This is a bullshit. A forceful write.
HAHAHA! I SUDDENLY MISS DR. WATSON WHEN I READ YOUR NAME. :))
If we r ever gonna know who Jack really was or who ACD really was we must not rule out every possible theory. Mr doyle was a perfectionist.In his stories mr.Holmes had quiet his own ways with ladies and u will find dis in many of this fictional encountes while on the other hand Watson wrote this encounters in his diaries and remember watson was a doctor. My point is- was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle living two lives one as a detective and one as the DOCTOR. Jack the ripper might as well be ACD’s masterpiece.If he really wanted people to know this he must have left accounts and clues and theories in his famous fictional stories. We must go through all his stories in detail if we want to know who he was. One more thing you should stop writing like you are the one who brought up this it makes you look stupid.
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Yes,you have your man,Conan Doyle was Jack the Ripper.
It is somewhat strange that I was just reading the complete Holmes series (nearing the end of volume 2) when the thought occured to me that though they both lived (or opperated) in London at the same time I have yet to hear any connection between the writer of the wold’s most famous series of detective novels and one of the most famous murderers in history have never been linked. I enjoyed what you wrote but am not convinced. I do plan on doing some research. (Look at the words comparitively in the Ripper letter and Doy’le’s graduation letter: “till” & kill , “Leather and Licence.” The only subtle similarity is on the loop of the cursive written L. They don’t seem with the same hand but the loop is perfectlu symetrical in both cases.
“Elementary My Dear Watson” though the most common phrase associated with Holmes was only said once in the entire collection. Holmes’ more reoccurring comment is “Eliminate the impossible, and the improbable, however unlikely becomes the truth. ” If Doyle did in fact leave us a hint I would start by looking at that.
Thanks for piquing my curiosity.
Conan Doyle would be keenly aware that if he were caught for committing the Jack the Ripper murders, that he would be hung with great relish by the authorities. After all he had humiliated them and they desperately wanted revenge. It would be in the Rippers best interest to change his handwriting sufficiently to disguise it. That would be easily done for a short letter such as the Dear Boss one. The fact that the two most famous phrases associated with the murders can be easily converted into his personal name was extremely risky. What would convince you that Conan Doyle was also Jack the Ripper? Perhaps The Rippers signature on his Doyle’s grave stone would be enough?
Hi Probaway; how do I delete my Rossetti comments as they have no real bearing on your question?
Steve – I have the option of deleting those comments, but the Rossetti ones seem to have some relevance. Please state which one or ones you want deleted and I will delete them.
Probaway: Certainly please delete first Rossetti text, I pasted, or any other texts I pasted that have no bearing on our discussion, as I don’t want to be the cause of straying from topic;
Meantime, I looked up: d’oeil (it’s of course French), that also means; “Stroke of the eye”.
Yes, but changing your hand writing means that you have to slow down, causing more ink to drop from pen to paper and spread and set as thicker letters on the paper. Fast strokes means thinner lines (basically not hiding your handwriting), while slow strokes that have to be thought out, which you have to do when you are trying to mask your hand writing, causes them to be thicker lines. Plus, another thing to point out is, why didn’t he just type the messages to the police, since he did have a typewriter at this time. That way he wouldn’t have to worry about his hand writing, Arthur surely would have thought of that, before sending any kind of messages to the police. It seems that looking at all the letters, he was quick handed for the first two, then the last few letters he tried to change up is hand writing by making it sloppy and misspelling the words. He also went from spelling RIGHT to RITE and NICE to NISE and misspelling all kinds of words. So, look at all the misspellings in each letter go back through and reread them, you see the change from letter to letter, masking hand writing or not I think there might be a cypher in them. You need to look at all of them and see everything as it is before deciding someone did it, such as the difference in handwriting and the misspelling of words.
anagrams or cyphers? Or maybe a copycat with terrible spelling or someone else is writing the letters? But even that would give them pause, creating a thick line in some of the words.
The overall tone of the Ripper letter does sound that of Conan Doyle, who I mentioned back in 2003 could have well been JR. Always playing cat and mouse with the police as in his novels. Battle of wits, a need to be seen as clever though rather self conceited, concerned with the bloodiest of cruelties, in fiction and in his private life expert at using a surgeon’s instruments, and at slaughtering and cutting up animals, may he also have been responsible for cutting up those horses hence Great Wyrley Outrages? One could speculate for years about Conan Doyle, could he have been Jack with the cheek to walk freely in and out of Scotland Yard, mocking the police even further or just person that derived pleasure from playing games, and deep down a harmless deluded softy. One thing for sure he captured the imagination of many a nation, and is still doing so today.
Like some others, it was a “lightbulb moment” that led me to this post. I was reading about occult stuff, and there was a blog about occult symbolism in the Sherlock Holmes movie, and I clicked one of the in-text links to a bio of ACD, and as soon as I read that he received a medical degree something clicked in my mind. A quick duck search pointed me here.
You might be aware that the first 007 was named John Dee and was an alchemist of Queen Elizabeth I’s court (also a spy for her). That’s another masonic/kabbalah link — ACD, medical license, writes home to mother about his “license to kill.” I wonder if Ian Fleming had the same “I want to be immortalized” narcissism (he was a dirty spook that’s for sure).
It was wonderful to learn using your article. I really appreciated the short while i put in looking through it and needed to leave a comment to say that….Kind regards
This is a very interesting article. What puzzles me though is that at the time the murders took place, ACD was living in Southsea, Portsmouth. So if he was indeed the Ripper, how did he do it? Did he travel back and forth with train? Is there any evidence that he was in or near London at that time?
My friend Chris Smith studied Jack the Ripper for a number of years. He too came to the same conclusion as yourself that ACD was indeed Jack The Ripper. He also found a link between him and the masons/Rosacrucia Society. Before he could publish his findings he ‘committed suicide’….
Not to say that I take it all seriously but some searching for 114 Commercial Road, London, brought me to this site. I was watching an episode of Sherlock Homles and that road address popped up so I thought I’d see, via Google Maps, if it existed and it does. What also popped up is that that street housed a pub that was frequented by a ripper victim.
“The word the is pronounced and spelled d or de in most European languages”
“D” followed by a vowel in most Romance languages means “of”; it is “l” followed by a vowel which means “the”.
interesting i have came to the same conclusion but i had 3 problem to solves
1 how did he travel from Southsea to London so i need to know if it is a railway in that time between Southsea (Portsmouth)and (london) whitechapel and if it was how many time can the train can cross this distance
2 is Arthur Conan Doyle a left handed
3 why he stopped killing
so if you have nay idea it may help me because knowing that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was a freemason it will be very hard to maintain your site alive for a long time so i need a quick answer my fiends
and all i want is the punish this criminal because i felt sorry for those women
that jack must pay by any means necessary
#1 Yes there was a train, and it was probably frequent because Porsmouth was and is a major city, Southsea is a close suburb.
#2 I never heard of his being left handed, and it seems that it would have been mentioned. If you find some reliable quote on that please post it.
#3 Who said he stopped killing? He just moved on to other bigger game in other venues.
Doyle died in 1930 and all of his children are also dead, so if you are going to get vengeance upon him it will have to be in the spirit world.
I feel that he should be honored for the wonderful things he brought into the world and reviled for the evil ones. He was one of the most extraordinary persons ever to have lived and he is still having a major impact on the entertainment industry.
thanks for your reply
you are right in some point of view but i think that those crimes are far away from being just murder but i think it part of a ritual because dolye was a fan of spiritualism so i think that if we solve all the clues we can know what’s going on today because Freemason don’t make those things just for fan but for a reason
good luck my friend
There was no direct train service between London and Southsea in 1888. You had to switch trains in Portsmouth. Average speed of a steam locomotive in late 1880s would be between 60 and 70 mph.The question would be if he could make it back home in time for family life and work, after a night of killing, so as to avoid suspicion. if he was the killer, that is….
Vigilius
The Portsmouth train station was only one mile from Doyle’s home at 1 Bush Vilas in the city of Portsmouth’s district of Southsea. Doyle, even thirty-eight years later when he visited San Francisco was a great walker. See San Francisco Chronicle June 17 1923, front page center entitled, Doyle accused of faking, for an article about him and his walking.
The H. H. Holmes may be a random artifact, or if Doyle knew about that before he named Sherlock, he might have chosen that name intentionally. But that is impossible, because these events were in 1893, thus the only possibility would be that Doyle went there and framed H. H. Holmes, but that is all but impossible.
Your companion in the pursuit of Jack the Ripper
Probaway
I have goosebumps from reading this! I’ve sat here open mouthed as my cigarette burned all the way to the bottom by the apparent obviousness of this theory – it just seems so perfect. I’ve tried not to be drawn in by the sensationalist nature of such an accusation but your article really is incredibly persuasive – I beseech you or anyone else to research this as deeply as possible. Certainly seems more plausible than most of the cases built against other suspects.
Regardless of whether this can be proved accurate or not, this is an excellently structured piece of research and argument, well done.
Every piece of my articles accusing Arthur Conan Doyle of the Jack the Ripper murders is based on easily accessible factual material. The conclusions reached by the analysis requires some reasoning and any single conclusion could be dismissed as chance. However, when there are so very many unusual things pointing to the same conclusion we must accept the apparent fact that Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle Doctor-Surgeon = IAC D Ripper
James wrote:
“Regardless of whether this can be proved accurate or not, this is an excellently structured piece of research and argument, well done.”
James, i have pointed out a number of plain errors, complete misunderstandings and even altering of facts in this pice of research and argument. This research is neither accurate nor factual.
One of the main points of this theory centres on the “Dear boss” letter, and this is letter is regarded as a hoax by most serious researchers. When the letter is a hoax in itself (not written by the real Ripper), then the remaining “evidence” tied to it, become meaningless. i have posted here on this blog a number of the errors i have discovered, and there is more to come when i have the time for it.
THANK YOU!!! Take a bow, because you are right on point!!! Just reading this I was saying, that’s not right Arthur not Ignatius, that was his middle name, and the writing doesn’t match either, his was I hate to say it but messier and if he tried to hide it, there would have been evidence, the pens they used then the inked words would have had thicker lines and probably sloppier hand writing not neater. Besides that point, the first two letters are in red and the last 3 three were in a darker color, and the spelling was off, if he was trying to hide his writing then it would be those last 3 letters.
I think that a hint might also be hidden in these words of Arthur Conan Doyle:
Quoted by Conan Doyle himself:
“I should dearly love that the world should be ever so little better for my presence. Even on this small stage we have our two sides, and something might be done by throwing all one’s weight on the scale of breadth, tolerance, charity, temperance, peace, and kindliness to man and beast. We can’t all strike very big blows, and even the little ones count for something.”
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i read your article. I always get suspicious when theorists slightly change facts to support their theory. This man was christened Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle – NOT Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle.
so how do that affect the so-called “name conversion” into Jack the Ripper?
Probaway, you write: “Every piece of my articles accusing Arthur Conan Doyle of the Jack the Ripper murders is based on easily accessible factual material.”
Easily accessible factual material shows that you have altered the order of Doyles’ names. what else did you change, just a little bit? i shall read on, we shall se.
Probaway wrote:
” Homeless = Holmes S or would you prefer a picture of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. James Watson printed in the newspaper with his name under the picture? There he is, Sherlock in his iconic deerstalker hat and his companion Watson in his bowler hat.”
if i am right, you mean to tell that HOMELESS is an anagram for HOLMES S. HOMELESS contains 1 more letter than HOLMES S, thus it is not an anagram. The drawing simply shows a homeless person, not uncommon for the place and time. Furthermore – if the person you identify as Holmes is in the vigilante committee – is he not then chasing the killer?
The Holmes character is not the only male figure of the victorian era being thus attired, as one can see from contemporary pictures.
dont you think you read too much into it?
Probaway wrote:
“Doyle spent nine months on a whaling ship, his last year in medical school, where he was the ship’s doctor. In his biography he says he spent a lot of time killing seals and gutting there still quivering bodies and skinning them immediately.”
if this is proof that Doyle was JTR, then this in itself kills your theory. I come from a nation where whaling and seal hunting is common. What Doyle describes has for centuries been the common way of killing seals, up to our time. you can see it in practice at youtube:
So what he did as a hunterwas not because he was evil, but because this is what he was trained to do, as a hunter.
I feel that you are not very credible. You take things out of context, alter facts, and you write about things that you know nothing about – to build up your theory. easily accessible factual material – whas it you who said that??
Probaway wrote:
“Shortly after the Jack the Ripper murders there was a famous fictional killer who lived in exactly the same address location as the most famous Ripper victim, Mary Kelly, and his name was Dracula. It’s like suggesting that Dracula was the murderer of Mary Kelly.”
Didn’t Dracula have his East End hideout in Chicksand Street? Although near, it is NOT the exact same address location as that of Kelly (Miller’s Court off Dorset St.).
To me , by now, Dracula is as likely to have been JTR as Doyle.
Dear Vigilius
Thank You for reading this post about JTR carefully. The fact that Doyle would even write the Dear Boss letter is astonishing, because if anyone had put these facts to the police at that time he certainly would have become a suspect. Claiming his initials were AICD and not IACD might have gotten him off that particular hook, but my contention is that there are several similar strange coincidences, and these become so many as to no longer be acceptable as coincidences but must be assumed to be purposeful clues put in place by a very strange author.
Another point is that if these were exact statements he would be hung. He had to make them a little bit obscure, or he would be exposed and die. You are right about the street address of Dracula – it didn’t exist – you must extend the street by half a block to get the address, but when you do it is at Mary Kelly’s apartment. Also, do I have to spell it out to everyone Dr A C Ula = Dr Arthur Conan Doyle. The word ocular means of the eye as does Doyle’s name in the french language, where the name originated. So yes you are right in saying that, “Dracula is as likely to have been JTR as Doyle.” because they were all the same person. Doyle and Stoker did collaborate on a play, The Guards Came Through.
Yes, but that Doyle wrote the letter, is just your theory, not a proven fact. His initials is not IACD, but AICD. you cant just switch around his initials just like that. And the usage of “D” in some european languages you have misunderstood. In scandinavian languages for example, “D” (det word “Det”) means “it”, not “the”. so you havent really proved a link to ACD at all, conserning the letter.
About streets and Kelly: Chicksand street exists today as it did in 1888. I have been thre myself, and its about 10-15 minutes walk from there to what used to be Dorset Street, just behind Spitalfield church. So it’d take than a block to extend from Dorset to Chicksand. You dont seem to check facts very good.
http://cartographic.info/uk_street/map.php?id=170537
Dr A C Ula do not equal Dr Arthur Conan Doyle, its an equally wild streak of imagination. So what do Ula means? You mean to say that Stoker was in on it, too?
Why should anyone belive your theories, since they are clearly not based on anything remotely realistic. .
so is he realy jack ripper i need if 4 a homework assiment
Rachael, if you base it on the theory presented here, he was certainly not. I have pointed out a few obvious errors. There is more to come.
Dear Rachael
Some things you just can’t know for sure, and when some one tells you they do know for sure who Jack the Ripper is they are either crazy, or lying or really stupid. This is a case where you must look at the evidence, judge if the evidence is real or just made up. You then identify the unchallengeable facts and build your theory in a way that includes all those facts. The facts which are not so certain may be used to support your theory or be removed.
Thousands of people have spent a lot of time trying to figure out who Jack the Ripper really was, and my theory is just one of many possibilities. But each of my points is based on an unchallengeable fact. For example:
1. The name Jack the Ripper was from a letter claiming to be from the killer himself.
2. Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle’s name is on his birth certificate.
3. He was a doctor and a surgeon.
4. His initials and title would be IACD Doctor
5. The letters I and J are interchangeable in English personal names
6. Surgeons sometimes jokingly refer to themselves as rippers.
7. The word the converts to the letter d in many European languages
8. Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle Surgeon equals JAC D Ripper
That doesn’t absolutely prove Doyle was the Ripper but each of the details is an easily provable fact. There are more provable things of this nature in my theory.
Rachael – lets go thru the list:
2. His name was Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle, NOT Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle. So there goes the IACD explanation.
4. His initials and title would be AICD Doctor
7. The “the” converts to “Det” (in norwegian, for example, not “D”. It means “It”, and not “The” in scandinavian languages. i am not aware of any other european language using the letter as is claimed here.
8. Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle do NOT equal JAC D Ripper.
In my view, Probaway proves nothing at all. Most facts i have checked out on his theory, do not hold water, and we end up with mere speculation. Come up with something Provable, at least. so far i seen precious little..
regarding the mockup photo and eye witness accounts:
You fail to take into account that nothing can be said definitely from eye witness accounts.
1. They saw the victoms with men, but it is impossible to know if any of those men actually were JTR. They were street prostitutes and would be seen with many different men.
2. No two witnesses describes anything similar that could link one man to several killings.
3. All sightings was done on dark evenings, at best dimly lit. Even today, parts of Whitechapel lies almost in complete darkness at night.
4. Many eye witnesses observed from a distance
5. Several eye witnesses was drunk when they observed
One friend of Kelly claims with 100% certainty that she saw her drink in a bar the morning she was found killed, at a time when she must have lain dead for hours already. So much for eye witnesses!
So theres nothing to link ACD to the killings based on eye witness accounts or modern mockup photos. It goes without saying that the photo you refer to on MSNBC is based on very unreliabble information, and its value must therefore be limited. At least there is not a single documented fact or account that links ACD to any of this.
Probaway hinges a lot of his ACD theory on the “Dear boss” letter, dated 25th of sept. 1888. What he fails to mention, is that this letter more often is placed in the hoax category. The police received 100s of letters from various individuals claiming to be the Ripper.
However, the only letter one can say with some degree of certainty could have been sent by the killer, is the “From hell” letter from the 16th of october 1888. The letter came with a part of a human left side kidney. The killer had removed the left kidney of Catherine Eddowes. But as said, even this letter cannot be proven 100% to come from the Ripper. But its the closest, considering the kidney.
The handwriting in the “From hell” letter is markedly different from the “Dear boss” letter. thus, if Conan Doyle wrote the “Dear boss” letter for some reaon, and in accordance with the theory presented here – then he was NOT Jack The ripper. Of course presuming that the actual killer wrote the “from hell” letter
If the killer did not write any of these letters, or any letters at all – we are back to start: Meaning we just dont know.So still i fail to see any connection with Conan Doyle..
How strange I mentioned this several years ago to lady taking tickets at train station in Lodon, that Arthur Conan Doyle may have been Jack the Ripper: A police officer joined in our conversation and agreed it was possible. I think Arthur Conan Doyle might have been him, his character seems to fit, he liked clever detective stuff, may have been drug addict, and he was a medical surgeon, (quack) who wrote to his mother he now has license to kill.
It is highly unlikely that Conan Doyle was a quack doctor, because Professor Bell of the University of Edinburgh medical school, acknowledged him. Doyle did publish an article in the BMJ, if I remember correctly, a leading medical journal, of his personal experiments with cocaine. However, there was never any evidence that he became addicted.
http://sherlockholmes.ning.com/forum/topics/conan-doyle-cocaine-new-book-may-shed-light-on-conan-doyle-s-own
http://www.bmj.com/content/335/7633/1315?ijkey=f5db1969c2f030c0547eb95b5f9bdabf1d1fa7b0&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha&linkType=FULL&journalCode=bmj&resid=335/7633/1315#ref-1
I recall reading his autobiography and saw there was something about him getting through his medical training without going through all the usual channels, as though it was just handed to him on a plate. It was after reading about him I become more and more convinced he could be Jack the Ripper. Though was long time ago, also I recall his love life was not plane sailing either. I like your theory that he most likely wanted to be found out after his death and is up to public to pick up the clues. He seemed to like clever game playing tactics just like old Jack. Here is chapter from my Rossetti novel. I published 2006: Though this is mostly fictional it shows I was thinking in similar lines to yourself about Doyle:
Fanny had lost all sense of time; she was making her way home to 96 Jeremy Street. It was nearing nine o’ clock in the evening and already it was dark and foggy. She had been to see Mr Benson, a retired lawyer, who lived at the end of a cul-de-sac. He had been helping her with her book keeping. She had only walked half way to the end of the street when she stopped by a gas lamp, thinking she had left behind her hotel account book. But then remembered she had deliberately left it with him, because it was getting late and he felt he could sort it out quicker in the morning when he felt fresh and wide awake.
She became aware of faint footsteps walking behind her under the ripple of the full moon. She turned around abruptly to see a man of average height wearing a top hat and holding a cane in his left hand, standing about two yards away from her. ‘How strange,’ she told herself quietly, ‘I never heard him fallowing.’ He had been walking in her pace so she could not hear his footsteps. He held his cane now in both hands as though he might break it in two.
‘How much do you charge?’ he asked, with an eerie tone in his voice. His accent clearly was not English. Fanny could not make out his face, but she could see that he was a very well dressed man, wearing a top hat, black overcoat, a white shirt, and he wore white gloves.
She sniffed defiantly. ‘How dare you! How dare you! What kind of women do you think I am?’ At that she ran at him and shoved him in the chest with both hands, with such ferocity he went hurtling backwards and landed flat on his back on the roadside.
A man who was sitting down in his armchair near the fireside in his home stood up, having heard all the commotion outside, and walked to the window. He pushed back the curtains and glancing through the window across the street, where he could see a man picking himself up from the roadside, and a woman was looking down at him, screaming for help. But he ignored her cries for help and just closed the curtains.
Fanny turned around sharply and ran as fast as her feet could carry her, thinking that was a lucky escape. But no sooner had she ran twenty paces coming to the end of the entrance of the cul-de-sac, where it met the road, she shrieked as she collided with a giant police officer on the beat. ‘Hello! hello! hello! We’re in rather a hurry aren’t we madam.’
Fanny held her hand to her chest gasping for breath. ‘Please help,’ she entreated, turning around to point at the man she had just pushed over. But he had gone. ‘There was a man over there by the street lamp. He assaulted me,’ she trembled. ‘And he had a big sharp knife.’
‘Well, we had better go and have a look hadn’t we,’ smiled the friendly constable, ‘before he gets away.’ Fanny reluctantly walked back to the end of the cul-de-sac with him, but the man whom had accosted her was nowhere to be seen. He had mysteriously disappeared like the rising fog.
‘I have my suspicions, madam, who that man might be,’ continued the constable, ‘I think I had better escort you to your home, if I may.’
‘That would be very kind of you,’ gulped Fanny, relieved that the man had gone, and that she did not need to walk the rest of her way home by herself. She was petrified. ‘But where could the man have gone to?’ She wondered, looking around. People don’t just disappear into thin air, like something out of Sherlock Holmes. She never liked those stories, and imagined the writer of them to be the person she just pushed over for assaulting her.
Stars faded into oblivion that could no longer be seen through the thick dense fog, by the naked eye. The moon had gone down as though to hide behind buildings and silhouetted trees that shivered in the night.
Very thoughtful of you. Of course it doesn’t prove anything, other than our minds are moving along similar channels. If you are still writing stories you might add some spice by making the villain out be Jack The Ripper and that he and Sherlock Holmes were two sides of the same person. Sherlock always had his evil doppelganger Dr. Moriarity.
I think it needs some more attention will take your tips on board.
Arthur Conan Doyle portrait is still not been entered in The National Portrait Gallery?
Steve Phillips wrote:
“Arthur Conan Doyle portrait is still not been entered in The National Portrait Gallery?”
it seems to be:
Thank you Vigilius for link, not sure where I read Arthur Conan Doyle not yet entered into National Portrait Gallery, it may have been in his autobiography, but I see his picture can now be found there. How strange I once read it had not been entered and so didn’t check it up, but looking in National Portrait Gallery hardback copy I have here at my home published 2004 I see it has been. Also a picture of Doyle’s grandfather John Doyle.
Interesting study thought I would add:
Bram Stoker; was a friend of Dr John Polidori. He lives at no. 27 Cheyne Walk
Strange can make the word word ACID from above
4. His initials and title would be AICD Doctor
I hope I haven’t complicated it further. I wrote Arthur Conan Doyle was Jack The Ripper in my Rossetti Novel published 9 May 2006
Steve Phillips wrote:
“Bram Stoker; was a friend of Dr John Polidori. He lives at no. 27 Cheyne Walk
Strange can make the word word ACID from above”
If you refer to the Dr Polidori who wrote a vampire novel, then i regret to tell you that he passed away in 1821, while Bram Stoker was born in 1847. So allow me to have doubts regarding this statement.
What do you mean when you say: Strange can make the word ACID from above?
Polidori was said to be friends with Bram Stoker, who lived close by, though they were rather big family, and were a number of Polidori’s who were related to Rossetti family. But certainly I will double check this out.
Nothing complicated about my saying I can make word ACID from this above staement, just simply matter of arranging letters. From this above staement; 4. His initials and title would be AICD Doctor.
Then you obviously dont know anything about how seals are hunted. I come from a nation where we have a long tradition of seal-hunting, and i can tell you that up to our times this is a very common way of hunting seals, however gruesome it might seem. so it proves absolutely nothing about Doyle. He simply did what he was taught to do. and this is one of many reasons why i dont find this Doyle-as-Ripper theory very credible.
I thought that made you people here, so obsessed with Arthur Conan Doyle, might be interested in watching an actual interview with the man himself. Enjoy, listen to the actual person of your suspicions!
outstanding
did you see that proway he is a left handed
he use his left hand to take off his hat also to take the book
this video answer the my 2nd question
and beyond a shadow of a doubt he is the one
now the evil is done we can’t change it we should stope asking who is what we must ask the questions why ?
cuz i was investigating about serial killers and i found that the zodiac killer may have a relation with this also ted bundy and i have read in some post here that hh holmes too
i guess my friend we can solve the clue for all the crimes
Maybe we need help of Sherlock Homes to crack this one
Again, you observe but you do not deduce. Conan Doyle was RIGHT handed. In one photograph he is shown holding his hat in his RIGHT hand. People do not make a habit of removing their hats with a dominant hand.
And, oh yeah, there’s a GAZILLION images of him holding his pen with… herp… his (LE GASP) RIGHT HAND!! >_>
If ACD had exposed himself to be Jack the Ripper in plain text he would have been promptly hung. The fact that there are so many near confessions using links to him personally is what is astonishing and makes this into a Sherlock Holmes’ story worth telling. You might enjoy reading ACD’s self-critique
In that poem he discusses his various personalities and some of them aren’t too sweet.
The definition of a deerstalker hat is a bit fluid especially after so many years, and so many commercial duplications, but the first picture of him has a strange hat which is similar and if the sides were pulled with a string would be called a deerstalker by some people. The 13 Oct 1888 picture appears to have the sides tied over the top with a ribbon. This of course is years before he is known to be wearing such an iconic head gear.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deerstalker
I respect your doubts, and I hope you apply the same standards of proof to the purveyors of other theories. There are about the 40 or so other JTR suspects and most if not all of them are innocent. If you find my theories weak, I think you will find the others even weaker, but if you come across a strong theory, with good proofs, please let me know.
this answers nothing in relation to Probaways theory! so what if he is lefthanded? this video answers nothing as far as Probaways theory is concerned. what on earth do zodiac, bundy and hh holmes have to do with this?? Problem is, you guys read POSTS, and you take them at face value without looking at contexts and bigger pictures of things. its like nowadays anyone posting anything on the internet suddenly becomes an authority. preposterous!
i agree with half of what you said
the zodiac wanted to be a copy of jack for that he write on the car of his victim and when he write letters he do some mistakes to look like him also he send to The San Francisco Chronicle a letter in mid-October 1969, in an envelope which contained a piece torn from Stine’s shirt
and the most suspecious thing is that the zodiac get the same fame all said he is inteligent but in fact he is just a stupid copy of a killer
i said there is a relation between all those killers all we need is to know why ?
the relation between killers is that they kill. but what on earth is the relevance in this case? we’re discussing Jack the Ripper? Or serial killers in general?
there is a problem of methodics here. all possible clues pointing towards Conan Doyle is blown up and overinterpreted, contorted and falsified, while clues pointing towards the opposite view is ignored. it is a problem when a person makes up his mind that this-or-that is the truth, then the person will blindly search for the fractions of facts that might support the “theory”.
no my friend you theory may have some good sense and it hlep us to see clearly and try to found more clue maybe in the end one of us will understand the other one idea
all we want is the know jack identity and if you convince me i will look for other suspect
Epictetus
“If you seek truth you will not seek victory by dishonorable means, and if you find truth you will become invincible.”
I agree with Vigilius that my theories are highly interpreted renditions of the facts, but the interpretations are based on accepted facts. I would also agree with him that a single one of these interpreted facts wouldn’t mean much, and that two instances would only be a curious coincidence but when there are perhaps twenty, curious facts easily associated with my interpretation, it points to only one thing – Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle intentionally arranged these facts to point to himself.
The reason he would take such risks is that he wanted the fame of committing the most famous murders of all time and getting away with it. The only way to get away with the murders permanently is to die of natural causes in old age, with a loving family at his side, thus the need for secrecy or he would be executed. To make his crimes even more perfect, he not only got away with them, but left a long lists of clues. Then, as if that wasn’t enough, he created the two most famous literary characters of all time – Sherlock Holmes and Dracula. Also, he is still responsible for recent plot lines for Academy Award movies – The Lost World and King Kong and a long list of Vampire knockoffs. Jack the Ripper is still interesting because it is a fabulously well written story created by the greatest plot writer of all time.
See also:
probaway I’m convinced enough you are on right track be interesting to see what else comes to light now you got ball rolling, so to speak. Character of Doyle reminds me of Joseph Starlin. No one would have imagined him to turn out to be mass muderer; reading his autobiography he seemed to have many good attributes. As I also found reading that of Conan Doyle’s yet nevertheless were Barbaric
I am not certain that Conan Doyle was Jack the Ripper, rather I support the contention that there are lots of clues that appear to point at him. It’s a preponderance of evidence type of contention, but it’s not proof in any absolute sense of the word.
You have numerous places written that you are absolutely sure AICD was the Ripper, and that you based it on facts. And this is patently untrue, and you know it. you have used the common internet-era logic of “research”. you become convinced of a certain “truth”. then you re-use the “information” from other ill-informed “researchers” to build up your theory, while you disregard any information disproving your theory. The majority of your “clues” is based on the “Dear boss” letter, yet you should know that it is widely regarded as a hoax, buy you pretend to KNOW that the Ripper wrote it.
Another thing – did you just say that Doyle invented the Dracula character, or did i misunderstand?
if you ask me: Probaways theory have no sense at all, and obscures reality.
you said earlier that he can’t travel to london and came back to his family but you forgot that he was a doctor and Syphilis a commun sexually transmitted infection like aids today and we know that some activist try to help prostitut by giving them condom and they give syringe for drug adicted in order to stop the aids Spreading
and maybe he just do the same thing in 19 centry by helping them for that no one will suspect him as he only do his job and he will have an aliby to be out of his home
i guess that being doctor what let those women trust him as they always talk with him and esspecially the last one that let him enter to her house
i said and jack the ripper will use this stratigy and only dolye can match with all of that at lest right now ;)
Jack always met the victims on the street. Even Mary Kelly, who was murdered in her apartment was met on the street and she took him into her room. It is unknowable if he told the victims that he was a doctor.
I suppose prostitutes were more likely to trust a respectable looking gentleman…
i suppose a respectable looking gentleman would stick out like a sore thumb at night in Whitechapel during the autumn of 1888, attracting the attention of police and vigilante commitees. any respectable looking gentleman seen in Whitechapel at night in 1888, would be suspicious, to say the least.
Zack wrote:
“you said earlier that he can’t travel to london and came back to his family but you forgot that he was a doctor and Syphilis a commun sexually transmitted infection ….and maybe he just do the same thing in 19 centry by helping them for that no one will suspect him as he only do his job and he will have an aliby to be out of his home”
He can travel to London, but should be back to family and job within reasonable time, to avoid suspicion, dont you think?
How credible does it sound that a Portsmouth doctor should go to London at night to help prostitutes?
i agree with you it would be incredible but if he did help them years ago and before the killing start it will be very credible
you said that his father died when he is 30 s i agree with you but he was depressed and he was over drank and was dismissed from his job at the Office of Works and put on a pension which means that he was absent father cuz i didn’t say dead father
and finally his mother take controle of the family i didn’t say that the report will much at 100 %
anyway i think that dolye is at 30% of being jack cuz you just ruined more of the clue i gives which mean that our conversation become more and more interesting
Stoker was born in 1847 while Polidiri died in 1821. why are so many people so gullible? i am amazed at the rate so many people wants to be fooled. Probaway is fooling you people big time.
i based my clues according to evidence like the FBI report about jack the ripper
http://vault.fbi.gov/Jack%20the%20Ripper/Jack%20the%20Ripper%20Part%201%20of%201/view
if you read it you will found that the personality of jack fit in with the personality of doyle that have a dominating mother and absent father
i think if you read this scientific fact and read the biographie of doyle you will have a scientific evidence
here we go again: A lot of points in the FBI report do absolutely not match with what is known about Doyle. His father died in 1893, when Doyle was in his 30s. Absent father, you said? There is no mention anywhere about his mother drinking heavily and going with many men, as the FBI profiling states. I have read both the FBI report and about Doyle’s life, and i cant agree that this is anywhere near scientific evidence. If you want to be researcher, you must have a critical mind.
I agree vigilius Bram Stoker had no bearing on Jack the Ripper case, nor did Polidori family. Only that Dracula is mentioned in above staement “There may be more representations of the fictional character portrayed below than any other fictional character except perhaps Dracula”.
I was just mentioning that Polidori family had connections with Bram Stoker. D G Rossetti mother was Frances Polidori.
http://family-history-stories.blogspot.com/2011/02/27-cheyne-walk-chelsea-london-former.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Gabriel_Rossetti
Bram Stoker and Doyle were known to be friends at the time Stoker was outlining his book Dracula.
That is very interesting I mention Bram Stoker in Rossetti too but didn’t know of his connection with Doyle. I have just included pieace you mentioned earlier I think it reads better now.
Chapter Fifty
Fanny had lost all sense of time; she was making her way home to 96 Jeremy Street. It was nearing nine o’ clock in the evening and already it was dark. She had been to see Mr Benson, a retired lawyer, who lived at the end of a cul-de-sac. He had been helping her with her book keeping. She had only walked half way to the end of the street when she stopped by a gas lamp, thinking she had left behind her hotel account book. But then remembered she had deliberately left it with him, because it was getting late and he felt he could sort it out quicker in the morning when he was refreshed and wide awake.
She became aware of faint footsteps walking behind her under the ripple of the full moon. She turned around abruptly to see a man of average height wearing a top hat and holding a cane in his left hand, standing about two yards away from her. ‘How strange,’ she told herself quietly, ‘I never heard him fallowing.’ He had been walking in her pace so she could not hear his footsteps. He held his cane now in both hands as though he might break it in two.
‘How much do you charge?’ he asked, with an eerie tone in his voice. His accent clearly was not English. Fanny could not make out his face, but she could see that he was a very well dressed man, wearing a black doppelganger, top hat, white shirt, and white gloves.
‘How dare you! How dare you! What kind of women do you think I am?’ She sniffed defiantly, and with both hands shoved him in the chest with such ferocity he went hurtling backwards and landed flat on his back on the roadside.
A man who was sitting down in his armchair near the fireside in the comfort of his home stood up, having heard all the commotion outside, and walked to the window. He pushed back the curtains and glancing through the window across the street, where he could see a man picking himself up from the roadside, and a woman was looking down at him, screaming for help. But he ignored her cries for help and closed the curtains.
Fanny turned around sharply and ran as fast as her feet could carry her, thinking that was a lucky escape. But no sooner had she ran twenty paces coming to the end of the entrance of the cul-de-sac, where it met the road, she shrieked as she collided with a giant police officer on the beat. ‘Hello! hello! hello! We’re in rather a hurry aren’t we madam.’
Fanny held her hand to her chest gasping for breath. ‘Please help,’ she entreated, turning around to point at the man she had just pushed over. But he had gone. ‘There was a man over there by the street lamp. He assaulted me,’ she trembled. ‘And he had a big sharp knife.’
‘Well, we had better go and have a look hadn’t we,’ smiled the friendly constable, ‘before he gets away.’ Fanny reluctantly walked back to the end of the cul-de-sac with him, but the man whom had accosted her was nowhere to be seen. He had mysteriously disappeared like the rising fog.
‘I have my suspicions, madam, who that man might be,’ continued the constable, ‘I think I had better escort you to your home, if I may.’
‘That would be very kind of you,’ gulped Fanny, relieved that the man had gone, and that she did not need to walk the rest of the way home by herself. She was petrified. ‘But where could the man have gone to?’ She wondered, looking around. People don’t just disappear into thin air, like something out of Sherlock Holmes. She never liked those stories, and imagined the writer of them to be a man of double living like the man she had just pushed over for assaulting her.
Stars faded into oblivion that could no longer be seen through the thick dense fog, by the naked eye. The moon had gone down as though to hide behind buildings and silhouetted trees that shivered in the night.
A quote from a BBC news article from 13 May 2011
“Conan Doyle stopped writing Sherlock Holmes stories in 1893 – but after a public outcry, he wrote Hound of the Baskervilles and The Return of Sherlock Holmes in the study at Undershaw.
Also, in 1907, Conan Doyle hosted Bram Stoker, author of Dracula, at the house.
John Gibson, an expert on Conan Doyle and founder the Undershaw Preservation Trust, said: “In Undershaw’s drawing room we had the authors of the two most iconic characters in all fiction.”
See:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-13351640
Though I read Doyle’s autobiography I don’t recall if he ever had sex with a prostitute, if he did he may have been afraid of being blackmailed.
no, Steve Phillips. you said specifically that Stoker was a friend of Polidori:
“Bram Stoker; was a friend of Dr John Polidori. He lives at no. 27 Cheyne Walk”
Yes that’s right I also said I would look it up again to find where i got that quote from. And will post it here. Thank you for the correction.
Dear Vigilius
I have just read the text again, and you are quite right Bram Stoker only formed a Gothic link with John Polidori but certainly Stoker lived at no. 27 Cheyne Walk and was Rossetti’s neighbour also friends with Cain.
Regarding Dr John Polidori: “He died in London on August 24, 1821, weighed down by depression and gambling debts. Despite strong evidence that he committed suicide by means of prussic acid (cyanide), the coroner gave a verdict of death by natural causes.”
i am sure Probaway is seeking the truth. But his methods got no truth to it. seek your own truth.
Probaway I just read the quote you posted:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-13351640
and this part was fascinating:
“The author designed the house himself and moved there with his family in 1897. He chose to build the 12-bedroom home in Hindhead because his wife, Louise, was diagnosed with tuberculosis.”
As I also found this quote in another article: A Scandal in Bohemia” was the first of Arthur Conan Doyle’s 56 Sherlock … Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s character Sherlock Holmes …. She remained faithful to Boswell, despite his frequent liaisons with prostitutes, until her death of tuberculosis … in 1789. After his infidelities, he would deliver tearful apologies to her and beg …
I was looking to see if Doyle had been known to visit prostitutes, and feared blackmail.
Steve Phillips wrote:
“…. She remained faithful to Boswell, despite his frequent liaisons with prostitutes, until her death of tuberculosis … in 1789. After his infidelities, he would deliver tearful apologies to her and beg ”
I am not sure what is the context here.??
Steve Phillips wrote:
“Regarding Dr John Polidori: “He died in London on August 24, 1821, weighed down by depression and gambling debts. Despite strong evidence that he committed suicide by means of prussic acid (cyanide), the coroner gave a verdict of death by natural”
arrest me if i am wrong, but i thought we are discussing Jack the Ripper here. may one ask for a better and clearer focus on subject matter?
That is quiet right, but the gentleman includes Bram Stoker’s Dracula in his argument and has partly explained why that is. But I agree there is a need to stay focused on Jack the Ripper and Conan Doyle. And as I stated before we may need Sherlock Homes to help solve who Jack was. After all apart from these stories and Doyle autobiography what other clues are there. The above picture likeness between Jack the Ripper and Doyle however is too uncanny not to be that of the same person. Though also said to look like Freddie Mercury, who was gay. Doyle wrote that he believed Jack the Ripper disguised himself as a woman to get away. For all we know he too was gay and woman hater. Though I’m not saying gay men hate women.
Too bad the argument is not very convincing, as far as relevance to the Ripper case goes. I also believe that in order to find out the identity of the Ripper, too much time is wasted on Doyle. I have posted a few replies here that refutes Probaways’ Doyle theory. it just dont hold water and cannot bear close scrutiny.
Vigilius I’m sure readers are grateful to you for your pointing out errors:
Certainly we need to look at the facts as well as clues, leading to those facts. We can only guess at motives. But could say it was someone of a confused and deranged mind, possible holding exceptionally high morals, to loathing and murdering prostitutes. Maybe someone with personality disorder such as found in “Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde is the original title of a novella written by the Scottish author Robert Louis Stevenson that was first published in 1886.” Psychopaths can appear normal until they suddenly snap without warning or reason. It’s often said a villain returns to scene of the crime. In Jack the Rippers case that seems to have been often times.
It is strange that you should choose Stevenson as your example, because Stevenson in his will asked that Conan Doyle finish up his final story, written while he was dying. Doyle didn’t do it. Bye the way what kind of evidence would you accept as legitimate for any of these crimes. Jack the Ripper or The Drake Plate.
Probaway; I was not aware of that but could see similarities between Stevenson’s character and person Doyle. But at the moment only thing I have to go on apart from picture photo likeness, is a hunch. Doyle however had the physical strength to commit these crimes. Plus he seems as one who had personality disorder. He was interested in how the villain confesses all his crimes in the end…giving away the plot type thing. But I feel clues would be better found studying Jack the Ripper. As we know for certain Jack committed these crimes: the big question of course being who was Jack? Whoever he was he no doubt fancied himself as a clever man and seemed not to like the police very much. It’s said the letter to the police may have been just sent by a practical joker. But there is no doubt he could write and write very well in deed. Not many people those days could write so well.
Jack had so very many unique abilities each of which didn’t overlap very much with the others. Ability to write well and to tell a story so well it is universally remembered 124 years later. Ability to kill living companions without remorse. Ability to con women who should be terrified (because JTR was lurking about) into going into dark alleys. Ability, to do commendable surgery on friendly women’s bodies who were living only a minute before. Ability, to do commendable surgery quickly in the dark! Ability to work efficiently when the patrol policeman was expected at any moment. The ability to plan all of these things and do them repeatedly well enough to not get caught. The ability to leave a blizzard of clues which people couldn’t see even though thousands tried for a hundred years. Ability to arrange these clues so that they could be found after he died a natural death but not before. The ability to write hundreds of stories which are still in print over a hundred years later.
According to what you say, Probaway, by doing this investigation we are helping A C Doyle fulfil his dream. To be found out. I think there were about 9000 prostitutes in London around this time. Likes of Christina Rossetti and her sister, Maria, was trying to rise age of consent (that was possibly age 14 at this time) and sending letters to parliament.
Probaway: It’s strange too you mention The Drake Plate. It reminds me of the time of explorer Addams in Japan he found the Jesuit priests were very bloody people. I expect Doyle would have known of their history. They were expert swards persons, maybe a skill leant from the Samurai warriors. That liked to cut bodies in pieces even put them back together to cut them up all over again.
Steve Phillips said we need to stay focused on Conan Doyle to which I hearty agree and I only suggest the strange relationship of his full name and title easily converting in both cases to these two characters names of the late 1800s.. IAC D Ripper = Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle Surgeon, and Dracula = Dr. Arthur Conan Doyle = Dr. A C ula – where ula means eye as in ocular. The name Doyle was derived from his ancestral name and apparently meant something like d’oiel in French. Thus Dracula converts to Dr Arthur Conan Doyle and it isn’t a distraction because it is the very same person.
Doyle would have trouble passing himself off as a woman, as he was six foot two at a time when most people were much shorter than they are nowadays.
I’m convinced you are on right track it’s far more interesting than any da vinci code. I see what you mean now by bringing Dracula into it. I keep on getting taken for him. What I have red however, of Jack the Ripper and Conan Doyle comes across as one and the same person. Both liked to play games leaving clues, same bloody interests clearly Doyle was deluded and certainly elusive.
I prefer preponderance of evidence to the word convinced but when we are studying a person who is world famous for creating interesting and clue ridden detective stories, it seems plausible that he would do some real world hoaxes. And as Jack said in the Dear Boss letter “you will soon here of me with my funny little games”. That was written about the time he was interviewing with Oscar Wilde (the most prominent author of the day) to write a pair of parallel companion books. Doyle’s was The Sign of Four and Wilde’s was The Picture of Dorian Grey. It is no ordinary person who would get one of the currently most revered authors to do such a strange thing. Doyle was easily recognized as a genius by other genius’s and that he was capable of creating weird stories was obvious to everyone.
Probaway wrote:
“and I only suggest the strange relationship of his full name and title easily converting in both cases to these two characters names of the late 1800s.. IAC D Ripper = Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle Surgeon, and Dracula = Dr. Arthur Conan Doyle = Dr. A C ula – where ula means eye as in ocular. The name Doyle was derived from his ancestral name and apparently meant something like d’oiel in French. Thus Dracula converts to Dr Arthur Conan Doyle and it isn’t a distraction because it is the very same person. ”
You have done more than suggested, havent you? Why on earth do you insist on altering the initials of Doyle? he is NOT IACD – he is AICD. Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle.
Bram Stoker named his character after a romanian nobleman, Vlad III Dracul of Wallachia (1431-1476).
Thus Dracula do not convert to Dr Arthur Conan Doyle, as Stoker named his character after a 15th century historical person.
Probaway: This posting of yours is a good example to describe your “research” methods. In one paragraph, you BOTH call him Ignatius Arthur Conan Doyle AND Arthur Conan Doyle. Because thats the only way to make this fit with your theory. But the man cant both be IACD and AICD, His biographers call Arthir Ignatius Conan Doyle. You come across as dishonest when you keep on ignoring this simple fact.
sorry about the bad spelling: His biographers call him Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle.
Pobaway i wonder also was the name Conan anything to do with Conan the Barbarian?
I don’t know. Perhaps you should ask Conan O’Brian of late night TV fame.
Conan means Little wolf hound or swift-footed warrior
And:the sir name Doyle, The dark stranger
Originally the Clan Doyle, derived from the pre 10th century Gaelic ‘Dhubh-ghall’ (The dark stranger) was found mostly in the counties of South-East Leinster, (Wicklow, Wexford and Carlow) and surprisingly it largely remains so today, the name being rare in other regions. .. The best-known bearer of the name is probably Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, (1859 – 1930), the creator of Sherlock Holmes, whilst an outstanding churchman was J K L Doyle, Bishop of Kildare (1786 – 1834). The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of O’Dubhghaill, which was dated 978, in the “Annals of the Four Masters”, during the reign of Brian Boru, High King of Ireland, 940 – 1014. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax.
http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Doyle
See also: http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/coup_d'oeil.htm
It is strange that this massive rewriting of personal names is accepted as fact and my simply changing the arrangement of the initials of Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle AICD to IACD disturbed people so much
Probaway, I see, JTR, and Doyle’s hand writing in places is the same such as, the ltter I, m, r, h, and spelling of red, and yet, yet one thing for certain as you say JTR letter is written by person who wants to be caught. So proud of his cleverness, and can hardly wait to share it, why else write the letter? I quite like how you made Dracula from Doyle’s name too. And ha ha, (is more than just a clue), found in letter to his mother which I recall reading in his autobiography, about him having license to kill. “Steel True Blade Straicht” written on his grave stone; similar is found in Jacks letter. There was shortage of bodies for research them days hence body snatchers. Only problem dealing with psychopath is there is no real rationality.
You also mention Oscar Wilde I always marvelled how he could write comedy Importance of Being Ernest and Dorian Grey type of murder mystery; a deal with the devil? It seems to have been a fascination with people leading a double life around this period that is also found in character of Sherlock Homes his cocaine addiction, and fear of blackmail. And Louis Stevenson’s Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde a play on the subconscious mind possibly. But in case of JTR who was blackmailing who, it seems it was the living he wanted to terrorise and simply silence his victims. Maybe his thrill was in terrorism rather than his taste for blood: though it’s believed once a person has taste for blood that thirst is never quenched.
The Great Imposter (Demara http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Waldo_Demara ) and Doyle had some very similar problems with their puberty years, in that their famous father’s and father’s family members were very famous and then lost it all as far as these adolescents were concerned. Demara’s father lost his local fame by losing his movie theater and young Demara’s social status plummeted when he could no longer get his friends into free shows. Doyle no doubt got a lot of second hand fame from his fathers famous brothers and his grandfather, and then when his own father went into an lunatic asylum Conan’s social status went into the basement and he was probably made fun of by his peers. Both of these brilliant boys responded by developing a vast array of alternate personalities. They weren’t schizophrenic and out of touch with reality, but rather creating new realities where they were something very special. People of super abilities like Sherlock Holmes and Jack the Ripper.
It appears that Conan occasionally disappeared for weeks at a time, doing so called research for his books and so did Demara. Because each of these guys was so intelligent and widely read they could easily drop into alternate occupations and situations and seemed to enjoy their alternate identities even more than there real ones.
That’s an interesting article Probaway: people often confuse schizophrenia with split personality. But Split personality is a personality disorder. It’s rather common for people to invent multiple characters, as type of self-defence. The theory being if they are insulted it’s the character that gets it not them.
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Probaway the Jack the Ripper’s letter is proof linking him with Doyle. Also he mentions in it “but they won’t fix me just yet” that implies he knows one day he will be found out, may even wish it as you say, written by someone who wishes to be remembered. Also ha ha.
Steve – Another facet is Doyle’s apparent fascination with after death experience and the whole Spiritualist knocking about thing, was that it gave him plenty of excuses to go places and do inexplicable things which would be considered bizarre, even insane but were tolerated by others because it was part of his “research” for even more wonderful stories.
He left a trail of clues on how to find his hidden hoaxes, even buried ones, like the Drake Plate. They are as strange but obvious as his other clues once you observe them not just see them. It does require work and a flexible mind! There may be a great many of his hoaxes out there – The Piltdown Man for example and the Kensington Rune Stone. But, he is fair, sort of, in leaving a consistent set of clues. Most of his hoaxes will never be found, but even a thousand years from now, when one of his, or even other people’s hoaxes are found, people will rush out and reread his books, searching for clues. Doyle build a resurrection machine, even better than the ancient Pharaohs pyramids!
Doyle seems to have gone to a lot of trouble to make these clever hoaxes, especially the one set in stone. Seeing The Knights Templar mentioned in the article, reminded me I was on a search a number of years ago but no one has yet been able to help any. I’m now beginning to wonder could it be another Doyle Hoax.
I once watched a documentary something to do with Knights Templar associated with Freemasonry. A young gentleman who wished to remain anonymous had found some hieroglyphics in UK somewhere in what looked like a large underground drain in the middle of a street. These hieroglyphics were said to be Indo European. I felt they may have been made by Hittites Lost Nation to preserve their history, in an effort to immortalise themselves. They certainly were a most unusual people. They were also very powerful that they defeated the Egyptian in battle.But later they had a disastrous civil war, and their great city was burnt to the ground. Did you see the documentary about them? Lost Cities of the Ancients – Dark Lords of Hattusha Numerous clay tablets where found of their history that they recorded over the years before they fled; but where to no one knows.
I don’t mean the writing and carvings in Royston Cave.
It is a place found underground possibly shown in Angus Henderson’s documentary but I was not able to obtain a copy of it to check. He says in his email he only has one copy himself… A person secretly took the presenter to there location said he was only person who knew about them. He suspected they were of Knights Templar but I think they would have written in Latin, if that was the case, as hieroglyphics are clearly of much earlier period.
If Doyle was JTP he must have planned many years ahead to carry out such boody crimes.
I would like to see a photograph of these hieroglyphics. If Doyle did it he will have his name at the top, or in the most conspicuous place. Slightly encoded of course.
The only difficulty is in finding that documentary to do with Knights Templar associated with Freemasonry. I don’t even recall the title and watched it about 6 years ago. Doyle is beginning to remind me of the Joker in Batman.
This guy ANGUS HENDERSON Alpine Films Ltd, may have made the documentary but his You Tube video is now blocked in UK?
There was only a clip of the film included in this, his filmography, but not the piece I was hoping to see. In his email to me, he says that he only has one copy of the film. Though I’m sure it wouldn’t take much to copy it on DVD and post it me but he doesn’t seem to want to send a copy. Not sure if it was called “secret societies” or something like that. I wish I knew where those hieroglyphics are to be found. They looked real enough and would be to big a job just to fake/hoaxe them for sake of documentary.
Steve – Just keep your eyes pealed for Doyle hoaxes. I know of several potential ones which I haven’t mentioned, but they are easy to spot, because they are always controversial and always have his name coded into the most prominent place. Even nonliterate artifacts like the Piltdown Man have the indicators. The most controversial part of the Piltdown discovery was the strange mismatch of the Articular Condyle jawbone to its socket. Once you see something like that it becomes time to check for the other clues. When there are several it begins to be suspicious. Doyle will leave an abundance of clues associated with a given hoax. That’s what makes it probable he did a hoax. Otzie the Iceman from the Alps is high on my suspects list. Why was he carrying a woven Doily for example.
Experts don’t seem to be treating Otzie the Iceman as hoax. Though concerning JTR even if Doyle has left behind deliberate clues, it would need to be something concrete to persuade the world he was JTR, else folks may argue just another of Doyle’s hoaxes. Similar thing happens today people want to make believe they are Dracula. I’m never quite sure with Doyle whether he is trying to lead the investigator away from the artefacts or towards finding them.
I only wish I could find these underground hieroglyphs I mentioned, but cannot find anyone else who saw the same documentary. I think the TV presenter (that looked like Ben Elton) said his father was a Freemason which was why he wanted to find out more about secret societies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Elton
But not sure if Ben Elton ever made any documentary, but if these hieroglyphs, turned out to be yet just another of Doyle’s hoaxes, it may launch a fuller investigation into what else he may have been up to.
Hoever, I’m convinced Doyle was the writer of the JTR letter you posted. But even if evidence is found that Doyle openly confesses to the murder crimes, evidence would still need to be sought to confirm it without doubt such as DNA etc. Blood red ink bottles.
Doyle wasn’t insane, in the sense that he was unconscious of what he was doing, but he was clearly insane by the usual definition, of a danger to himself and others. He was very careful not to give too much away in the form of clues but just enough that when finally discovered all of the disparate factors would fall into place – sort of. He wouldn’t want to confess to the crimes, even on his last day of life, because that would destroy the mystery and when any of his hoaxes was later discovered they would be quickly tossed aside as just another of Doyle’s funny little evil pranks. But, by leaving the clues just a little too weird for most people to accept he keeps his fame alive – forever. People will continue to say, maybe it’s a hoax and maybe it’s real. It’s the ambiguity that keeps his fame alive.
I see what you mean, a type game player, like Homes, cat and mouse with the police,
Sorry this text is mixed up a bit, but even from this short piece taken from A Scandal in Bohemia, it’s possible to associate Doyle with JTR even Jephro Rucastle is initials JR…by all means delete it if you like.
“…in Bohemia, not far from Carlsbad. ‘Remarkable as being the scene of the death of Wallenstein, and for its numerous glass-factories and paper-mills.’ Ha, ha, my boy, what do you make of that?” His eyes sparkled, and he sent up a great blue triumphant cloud from his cigarette.
“The paper was made in Bohemia,” I said.
“But you can understand,” said our strange visitor, sitting down once more and passing his hand over his high white forehead, “you can understand that I am not accustomed to doing such business in my own person. Yet the matter was so delicate that I could not confide it to an agent without putting myself in his power…. I took up the envelope and saw scrawled in red ink upon the inner flap, just above the gum, the letter K three times repeated. There was nothing else save the five dried pips. What could be the reason of his overpowering terror?… “Holmes, the Scotland Yard Jack-in-office!”… Black Jack of Ballarat was the name I went under, and our party is still remembered in the colony as the Ballarat Gang… “‘Here we are, Jack,’ says he, touching me on the arm;… Kindly hand me down the letter K of the American Encyclopaedia which stands upon the shelf beside you…. Their papers they mean to have, be the holder of them who it may. In this way you see K. K. K. ceases to be the initials of an individual and becomes the badge of a society.”
“But of what society?”
“Have you never –” said Sherlock Holmes, bending forward and sinking his voice –“have you never heard of the Ku Klux Klan?”
“I never have.”
Holmes turned over the leaves of the book upon his knee. “Here it is,” said he presently:
“Ku Klux Klan. A name derived from the fanciful resemblance to the sound produced by cocking a rifle. This terrible secret society was formed by some ex-Confederate soldiers in the Southern states after the Civil War, and it rapidly formed local branches in different parts of the country, notably in Tennessee, Louisiana, the Carolinas, Georgia, and Florida. Its power was used for political purposes, principally for the terrorizing of the negro voters and the murdering and driving from the country of those who were opposed to its views. Its outrages were usually preceded by a warning sent to the marked man in some fantastic but generally recognized shape — a sprig of oak-leaves in some parts, melon seeds or orange pips in others. On receiving this the victim might either openly abjure his former ways, or might fly from the country. If he braved the matter out, death would unfailingly come upon him, and usually in some strange and unforeseen manner. So perfect was the organization of the society, and so systematic its methods, that there is hardly a case upon record where any man succeeded in braving it with impunity, or in which any of its outrages were traced home to the perpetrators. For some years the organization flourished in spite of the efforts of the United States government and of the better classes of the community in the South. Eventually, in the year 1869, the movement rather suddenly collapsed, although there have been sporadic outbreaks of the same sort since that date.
“You will observe,” said Holmes, laying down the volume, “that the sudden breaking up of the society was coincident with the disappearance of Openshaw from America with their papers. It may well have been cause and effect. It is no wonder that he and his family have some of the more implacable spirits upon their track. You can understand that this register and diary may implicate some of the first men in the South, and that there may be many who will not sleep easy at night until it is recovered.”
“Then the page we have seen –”
“Is such as we might expect. It ran, if I remember right, ‘sent the pips to A, B, and C’ — that is, sent the society’s warning to them. Then there are successive entries that A and B cleared, or left the country, and finally that C was visited, with, I fear, a sinister result for C. Well, I think, Doctor, that we may let some light into this dark place, and I believe that the only chance young Openshaw has in the meantime is to do what I have told him. There is nothing more to be said or to be done to-night, so hand me over my violin and let us try to forget for half an hour the miserable weather and the still more miserable ways of our fellowmen.”
… “This is the envelope,” he continued. “The postmark is London — eastern division. Within are the very words which were upon my father’s last message: ‘K. K. K.’; and then ‘Put the papers on the sundial.’ ”
“What have you done?” asked Holmes.
“Nothing.”
“Nothing?”
“To tell the truth” — he sank his face into his thin, white hands — “I have felt helpless. I have felt like one of those poor rabbits when the snake is writhing towards it. I seem to be in the grasp of some resistless, inexorable evil, which no foresight and no precautions can guard against.”
“Tut! tut!” cried Sherlock Holmes. “You must act, man, or you are lost. Nothing but energy can save you. This is no time for despair.”
“I have seen the police.”
“Ah!”
“But they listened to my story with a smile. I am convinced that the inspector has formed the opinion that the letters are all practical jokes, and that the deaths of my relations were really accidents, as the jury stated, and were not to be connected with the warnings.”
“There can be no question as to their nature,” he answered.
“Then what are they? Who is this K. K. K., and why does he pursue this unhappy family?”
Sherlock Holmes closed his eyes and placed his elbows upon the arms of his chair, with his finger-tips together. “The ideal reasoner,” he remarked, “would, when he had once been shown a single fact in all its bearings, deduce from it not only all the chain of events which led up to it but also all the results which would follow from it. As Cuvier could correctly describe a whole animal by the contemplation of a single bone, so the observer who has thoroughly understood one link in a series of incidents should be able to accurately state all the other ones, both before and after. We have not yet grasped the results which the reason alone can attain to. Problems may be solved in the study which have baffled all those who have sought a solution by the aid of their senses. To carry the art, however, to its highest pitch, it is necessary that the reasoner should be able to utilize all the facts which have come to his knowledge; and this in itself implies, as you will readily see, a possession of all knowledge, which, even in these days of free education and encyclopaedias, is a somewhat rare accomplishment. It is not so impossible, however, that a man should possess all knowledge which is likely to be useful to him in his work, and this I have endeavoured in my case to do. If I remember rightly, you on one occasion, in the early days of our friendship, defined my limits in a very precise fashion.”
“Yes,” I answered, laughing. “It was a singular document. Philosophy, astronomy, and politics were marked at zero, I remember. Botany variable, geology profound as regards the mud-stains from any region within fifty miles of town, chemistry eccentric, anatomy unsystematic, sensational literature and crime records unique, violin-player, boxer, swordsman, lawyer, and self-poisoner by cocaine and tobacco. Those, I think, were the main points of my analysis.”
Probaway, you can delete above extracts from A Scandal in Bohemia, and include this instead if you like, which I have shortened as it may be better to keep it small: “But you can understand,” said our strange visitor, sitting down once more and passing his hand over his high white forehead, “you can understand that I am not accustomed to doing such business in my own person. Yet the matter was so delicate that I could not confide it to an agent without putting myself in his power…. I took up the envelope and saw scrawled in red ink upon the inner flap, just above the gum, the letter K three times repeated. There was nothing else save the five dried pips. What could be the reason of his overpowering terror?… “Holmes, the Scotland Yard Jack-in-office!”… Black Jack of Ballarat was the name I went under, and our party is still remembered in the colony as the Ballarat Gang… “‘Here we are, Jack,’ says he, touching me on the arm;… Kindly hand me down the letter K of the American Encyclopaedia which stands upon the shelf beside you…. In this way you see K. K. K. ceases to be the initials of an individual and becomes the badge of a society.”
“But of what society?”
“Have you never –” said Sherlock Holmes, bending forward and sinking his voice –“have you never heard of the Ku Klux Klan?”
…Holmes turned over the leaves of the book upon his knee. “Here it is,” said he presently:
“Ku Klux Klan…
…Well, I think, Doctor, that we may let some light into this dark place, and I believe that the only chance young Openshaw has in the meantime is to do what I have told him…
… “This is the envelope,” he continued. “The postmark is London — eastern division. Within are the very words which were upon my father’s last message: ‘K. K. K.’; and then ‘Put the papers on the sundial.’ ”
…”To tell the truth” — he sank his face into his thin, white hands — “I have felt helpless. I have felt like one of those poor rabbits when the snake is writhing towards it. I seem to be in the grasp of some resistless, inexorable evil, which no foresight and no precautions can guard against.”
“Tut! tut!” cried Sherlock Holmes. “You must act, man, or you are lost. Nothing but energy can save you. This is no time for despair.”
“I have seen the police.”
“Ah!”
“But they listened to my story with a smile. I am convinced that the inspector has formed the opinion that the letters are all practical jokes, and that the deaths of my relations were really accidents, as the jury stated, and were not to be connected with the warnings.”
…As Cuvier could correctly describe a whole animal by the contemplation of a single bone, so the observer who has thoroughly understood one link in a series of incidents should be able to accurately state all the other ones, both before and after. We have not yet grasped the results which the reason alone can attain to. Problems may be solved in the study which have baffled all those who have sought a solution by the aid of their senses. To carry the art, however, to its highest pitch, it is necessary that the reasoner should be able to utilize all the facts which have come to his knowledge; and this in itself implies, as you will readily see, a possession of all knowledge, which, even in these days of free education and encyclopaedias, is a somewhat rare accomplishment…
…”Yes,” I answered, laughing. “It was a singular document. Philosophy, astronomy, and politics were marked at zero, I remember. Botany variable, geology profound as regards the mud-stains from any region within fifty miles of town, chemistry eccentric, anatomy unsystematic, sensational literature and crime records unique, violin-player, boxer, swordsman, lawyer, and self-poisoner by cocaine and tobacco. Those, I think, were the main points of my analysis.”
Steve – That’s a great find! I remember reading it, but it was so long ago that I would have to read the entire SH Canon to relocate it. Like so many of these clues, by itself it only points, but the accumulation of these strange overlaps, is what convinces me that we are on the right track.
Probaway: Thanks for the encouragement.
Appears as you mentioned, Doyle wants to help us pick up the clues. Maybe when he said he believed JTR disguised himself as a woman to get away, it could have been other way around he did it when approaching a prostitute to appear less threatening. After committing the bloody crime put his costume into his doctor’s bag and walks off dressed as a gentleman.
BEYOND THE CITY
“As she turned slowly round, and the sunshine struck upon her face, the
two watchers were amazed to see that this very active and energetic lady
was far from being in her first youth, so far that she had certainly
come of age again since she first passed that landmark in life’s
journey. Her finely chiseled, clean-cut face, with something red Indian
about the firm mouth and strongly marked cheek bones, showed even at
that distance traces of the friction of the passing years. And yet she
was very handsome. Her features were as firm in repose as those of a
Greek bust, and her great dark eyes were arched over by two brows so
black, so thick, and so delicately curved, that the eye turned away from
the harsher details of the face to marvel at their grace and strength.
Her figure, too, was straight as a dart, a little portly, perhaps, but
curving into magnificent outlines, which were half accentuated by the
strange costume which she wore. Her hair, black but plentifully shot
with grey, was brushed plainly back from her high forehead, and was
gathered under a small round felt hat, like that of a man, with one
sprig of feather in the band as a concession to her sex.
But if her conduct and appearance had already somewhat jarred upon their
limited and precise sense of the fitness of things, what were they to
think of the next little act in this tableau vivant? The cabman, red
and heavy-jowled, had come back from his labors, and held out his hand
for his fare. The lady passed him a coin, there was a moment of
mumbling and gesticulating, and suddenly she had him with both hands by
the red cravat which girt his neck, and was shaking him as a terrier
would a rat. Right across the pavement she thrust him, and, pushing him
up against the wheel, she banged his head three several times against
the side of his own vehicle…
… Suddenly, however, a pair of arms closed
round his neck, and glancing backwards he caught a glimpse of the black
coarse fringe of the woman whom he had befriended, “I’ve got him!” she
shrieked. “I’ll ‘old ‘im. Now, Bill, knock the tripe out of him!” Her
grip was as strong as a man’s, and her wrist pressed like an iron bar
upon the Admiral’s throat. He made a desperate effort to disengage
himself, but the most that he could do was to swing her round, so as to
place her between his adversary and himself. As it proved, it was the
very best thing that he could have done. The rough, half-blinded and
maddened by the blows which he had received, struck out with all his
ungainly strength, just as his partner’s head swung round in front of
him. There was a noise like that of a stone hitting a wall, a deep
groan, her grasp relaxed, and she dropped a dead weight upon the
pavement, while the Admiral sprang back and raised his stick once more,
ready either for attack or defense. Neither were needed, however, for
at that moment there was a scattering of the crowd, and two police
constables, burly and helmeted, pushed their way through the rabble. At
the sight of them the rough took to his heels, and was instantly
screened from view by a veil of his friends and neighbors…
… “Then ‘ere’s the ticker!” The boy pointed to the clenched hand of the
senseless woman. A glimmer of gold shone out from between the fingers,
and on opening them up, there was the Admiral’s chronometer. This
interesting victim had throttled her protector with one hand, while she
had robbed him with the other.”
Hence who would suspect a seemingly defenceless woman?
Very interesting and shows clearly Doyle’s literary skills and his personal interests, and interests in throats and homicide and thefts, but what real crimes does it alude to. I suspect that many, perhaps most and possibly all of his writing points to a personal crime.
Doyle seemingly takes up the woman cause: feminism, but on the other hand prefers women to know their place and follow convention to have all those virtues a woman should possess that makes her a lady: BEYOND THE CITY he says, “The woman there is, as she should be, in every way the absolute equal of the male….
I look upon the subserviency of woman as largely due to her abandoning nutritious drinks and invigorating exercises to the male. I do neither.” She picked up a pair of fifteen-pound dumb-bells from beside the fireplace and swung them lightly about her head…
“The old cant!” she cried. “The old shibboleth! What is this mission which is reserved for woman? All that is humble, that is mean, that is soul-killing, that is so contemptible and so ill-paid that none other will touch it. All that is woman’s mission. And who imposed these limitations upon her? Who cooped her up within this narrow sphere? Was it Providence? Was it nature? No, it was the arch enemy. It was man.”
“It was man, Charles. It was you and your fellows I say that woman is a colossal monument to the selfishness of man. What is all this boasted chivalry–these fine words and vague phrases? Where is it when we wish to put it to the test? Man in the abstract will do anything to help a woman. Of course. How does it work when his pocket is touched? Where is his chivalry then? Will the doctors help her to qualify? will the lawyers help her to be called to the bar? will the clergy tolerate her in the Church? Oh, it is close your ranks then and refer poor woman to her mission! Her mission! To be thankful for coppers and not to interfere with the men while they grabble for gold, like swine round a trough, that is man’s reading of the mission of women. You may sit there and sneer, Charles, while you look upon your victim, but you know that it is truth, every word of it.”
Maybe this is Doyle’s attempt at a feminist novel, his writing excellent, goes on to describe what polite society expected everything a woman ought to be: Clara was tall and thin and supple, with a graceful, womanly figure. There was something stately and distinguished in her carriage, “queenly” her friends called her, while her critics described her as reserved and distant.
Such as it was, however, it was part and parcel of herself, for she was, and had always from her childhood been, different from any one around her. There was nothing gregarious in her nature. She thought with her own mind, saw with her own eyes, acted from her own impulse. Her face was pale, striking rather than pretty, but with two great dark eyes, so earnestly questioning, so quick in their transitions from joy to pathos, so swift in their comment upon every word and deed around her, that those eyes alone were to many more attractive than all the beauty of her younger sister. Hers was a strong, quiet soul, and it was her firm hand which had taken over the duties of her mother, had ordered the house, restrained the servants, comforted her father, and upheld her weaker sister, from the day of that great misfortune.
Ida Walker was a hand’s breadth smaller than Clara, but was a little fuller in the face and plumper in the figure. She had light yellow hair, mischievous blue eyes with the light of humour ever twinkling in their depths, and a large, perfectly formed mouth, with that slight upward curve of the corners which goes with a keen appreciation of fun, suggesting even in repose that a latent smile is ever lurking at the edges of the lips. She was modern to the soles of her dainty little high-heeled shoes, frankly fond of dress and of pleasure, devoted to tennis and to comic opera, delighted with a dance, which came her way only too seldom, longing ever for some new excitement, and yet behind all this lighter side of her character a thoroughly good, healthy-minded English girl, the life and soul of the house, and the idol of her sister and her father. Such was the family at number two. A peep into the remaining villa and our introductions are complete.”…
There are many such like quotes for example; ”Every woman should be independent. Every woman should learn a trade. It was their duty to push in where they were least welcome. Then they were martyrs to the cause, and pioneers to their weaker sisters. Why should the wash-tub, the needle, and the housekeeper’s book be eternally theirs? Might they not reach higher, to the consulting-room, to the bench, and even to the pulpit? Mrs. Westmacott sacrificed her tricycle ride in her eagerness over her pet subject, and her two fair disciples drank in every word, and noted every suggestion for future use. That afternoon they went shopping in London, and before evening strange packages began to be handed in at the Doctor’s door. The plot was ripe for execution, and one of the conspirators was merry and jubilant, while the other was very nervous and troubled.”…
I recalled reading in Doyle’s autobiography that his doctor’s certificate was handed to him more or less on basis of his benevolent character rather than undergoing entire academic training which he never actually fully completed. This however was put differently (audio book). So cannot find exact quote; but back to, Beyond the City;
“Blessed if I believe the swab was a certificated doctor at all. He was flying false colours, or I am mistaken.”…
For the second time was the Admiral punched and tapped and listened to.This time, however, there could be no question of the qualifications of the doctor, a well-known Fellow of the College of Surgeons, and his report was as favourable as the other’s had been adverse…
Doyle’s tone in this above novel is seemingly different to that of A Scandal in Bohemia as though written by someone else, but these like feminist phrases were typical of that period. But we know it is Doyle with his fascination with crime; and also adds humour that is typical of all his works.
Doyle’s below quote however reminds me of D. G. Rossetti when he met Fanny Cornforth (thought to be prostitute) she was eating nuts and throwing empty shells at him. I used this quote in Rossetti novel taken from Pre-Raphaelite info.
Beyond The City: “At one side was a barrowman with a load of walnuts, and
beside the barrow a bedraggled woman with a black fringe and a chequered
shawl thrown over her head. She was cracking walnuts and picking them
out of the shells, throwing out a remark occasionally to a rough man in
a rabbit-skin cap, with straps under the knees of his corduroy trousers,
who stood puffing a black clay pipe with his back against the wall.”
Maybe Doyle had seen Rossetti and Fanny flirting together in the park while on lookout for material for his novel. But certainly there is need for some factual evidence to associate Doyle and JTR.
Probaway you mention initials H.B these are also found in “The Adventure of the Blue Carbuncle”
“I took the tattered object in my hands and turned it over rather ruefully. It was a very ordinary black hat of the usual round shape, hard and much the worse for wear. The lining had been of red silk, but was a good deal discoloured. There was no maker’s name; but, as Holmes had remarked, the initials “H. B.” were scrawled upon one side. It was pierced in the brim for a hatsecurer, but the elastic was missing.”
Thanks Steve – That may well be a major clue to a hoax. You know my methods and I would suggest you follow any details in that story such as books mentioned, or specific locations and chase down those weird words like hatsecurer. That paragraph is strange!
I have found a piece even more dark side of Doyle, but too long to post here. Please delete or edit any you have done with else may make it harder for readers to follow.
No uncommon for a prostitute to call the doctor around?
But concerning the search; I would need to: email? you, recent piece I have found.
Steve – What a great find! “The plot was ripe for execution, and one of the conspirators was merry and jubilant, while the other was very nervous and troubled.” This doesn’t implicate Doyle directly in the JTR events, but it does show his very similar potential mind set. He likes to delve into and actually experience other people’s minds and motivations and then play games with them. When asked about that on his tour of Australia, he said, “that’s quite a confession for someone who has created as many criminals as I.” A paraphrase from a decade-ago reading.
are you still spanking your hobby horse? his mindset was the the one of an inventive writer of intelligent crime novels. what’d you expect? i still insist that you haven’t presented one single fact proving Doyle to be JTR:
What would you want? Would a signed confession do? Isn’t the Dear Boss letter which first uses the name Jack the Ripper a twice over signed confession. It is hard to imagine a better one from a clever author of whodunits.
It should be pretty easy to have the handwriting of his ‘licenced to kill letter’ and the ‘Dear Boss’ letter compared by an expert. The word ‘to’ does look similar.
Handwriting would always be a little suspect, but if DNA could be pulled from under an licked stamp that would be really great evidence.
Jack the ripper was a man who could pull his resources on information. The murders point to a crazed man but the killer was not the killer was clever and methodical and the header boss, is a term used by South african land owners as well as black so souh African descent and there was apparently a suspect on their list that was a known criminal from that part of the world in England at the time however this was a false lead set by the ripper knowing full well the police would focus on that individual as well as sending out false information deliberately to increase the pool of suspects. The writing was of someone not well read or written but it was easy for someone who was well read or written to deceive by pretending to be so thus making it obvious the person was actually revealing them self more by the false leads by being the opposite of them. Not crazed,well educated and definately experience as a dr but not poisons which was Doyle’s specialty. Plus there is an American link to Mary Ann relatives moving to America at the time for the Roberts millions from Monmouthshire it was also much publicised the ones who went there gained significant wealth so we’re well known to some journalists I think it not a coincidence that an American journalist was also in London covering the ripper killings at the time he likely knew of Mary Anne’s connection to royalty.
I do have some of those chills of following a clue on this whole thread. May I also suggest that perhaps ACD, if not the killer, may have had some knowledge of his identity. It has always struck me as rather odd that Jack vanished. But did he?
America’s first documented serial killer used the alias H. H. Holmes. He has also been known to be ‘abroad’ during the short period of time that Jack was active.
Might ACD and HHH have had some aquaintance?
Jack and his ‘funny little games of ours’
Moriarty and HIS funny little games with Sherlock.
ACD murdered his Sherlock — he didn’t want to write about him anymore even though the books were making him money. He wanted to write more serious books, mostly forgotten now. Could it be there was some falling out? Did he actually meet this brilliant con man, strike up a friendship, in fact know who he was? Did he maybe stop writing his hints in fear because the only one who GOT the hints happened to be the person who had (commited them) and returned to America?
I can’t help but wonder if perhaps, the name Dr. H. H. Holmes wasn’t some sort of message of forgiveness— if they did have some aquaintance? Sherlock returns after 8 years — ACD may have not been the killer but had some hero worship (Watson like) admiration for the person.
ACD wrote Watson as a bit odd to me. Watson was a Doctor — generally thought to be a profession of brilliant minds. Yet, Watson does things, such as be amazed that Sherlock knew he was in the room because he saw his reflection — really? A doctor who has no concept of mirrors? That isn’t very impressive.
Or is it?
Was Sherlock a reflection of a secret friendship? Was that imperfect character of a mind, brilliant but warped — not quite similar to H. H. Holmes?
If Dr, Herman Webster Mudgett did travel to London in the fall, when the Whitechapel murders took place, would it be outside of possible for them to have met? Both were Doctors – I would have to say that they could easily have been introduced.
Now, Watson always made reference to the intimate friendship and dearest love for Sherlock.
He always made it known, that Sherlock was both a great intellect, who studied all sorts of macabre things for the joy of learning, and very detached from the emotions of other people, while able to Fake them well when it served his purpose. (one personality profile often associated with serial killers and con men of which H.H.Holmes was both) He said that Sherlock experimented with drugs, and was addicted. (serial killers are often described as addicted to killing)
Look at the fashion similarity between a young ACD, and H.H.Holmes photos, then read the physical descriptions of Sherlock and Jack.
I don’t think ACD had to Be Jack the Ripper for him to have meshed the Dupin of Poe (who is actually mentioned by Watson and Holmes) and some other real life people including perhaps another man obsessed with Poe — H.H.Holmes.
At the same time, in France, Alexandre Lacassagne solved murder cases that seemed unsolvable at the time. He’s one of the true fathers of forensic science. To this day, students in police academies are taught the methods of the master criminologist from Lyon. He even helped solve the question of Joseph Vacher, beheaded in Dec. 1898 when it was determined he was not just insane, but did understand his actions.
So he would have access to friends and amazing written works of cutting edge science of the time and be able to mesh that into his stories. Why would he not also be able to mesh a bit of a real serial killer ‘friend’ into them as well.
When a writer writes a story, small bits of his own personality and life experience, no matter how guarded, do slip in. For all we know, ACD wrote first his facination into his Sherlock character and later Moriarty became the dark side of the same person. ACD killed off Sherlock in 1893. Eight years went by before ‘Hounds’ was published in 1901. 1893 was the year of the Chicago world fair which H.H. Holmes very famously stalked a huge number of victims. H.H. Holmes was executed in 1896 and ACD refused to write his own Holmes for years after that.
ACD said that maybe Sherlock didn’t die, but he was never the same.
So even if he wasn’t Jack — it would be foolish to think he didn’t have any knowledge of these real life crimes. How much knowledge would require much research, but until it is proven impossible…….
“What one man can invent, another can discover.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle
i havent yet seen a single credible clue linking Doyle to JTR in a credible way. Probaway is basing his “proofs” on misunderstandings, misreadings and downright altering of facts.
Osloensis – What would you accept as a confession? Isn’t the DEAR BOSS letter which ends signed with JACK THE RIPPER two confessions in the most prominent places on the most famous piece of Ripper literature enough? What could possibly be a better confession from a writer of whodunits. Tell us! What would be a better confession!
well.. the “Dear boss” letter is for one thing regarded as a a hoax in itself by many scholars on this topic, unlike the “From hell” letter. handwriting in those 2 letters differ. but apart from your suspicions and theories, what on earth is linking Doyle to all this? you have not presented ONE fact that checked out clear, after examination.
however, like you, maybe equally biased against a long dead person – i research somebody else as a likely suspect. i will not give out his name until i have something more than today. i was looking into it from the angle of a killer who wanted maximum shock effect, and why that would be so. this also narrows down to a circle of people well known at the time: Social reformers.
apart from the very killings, what do most people associate with JTR? THe horrible conditions of the East End.
Doyle is not the one. you shouldnt smear his name. i havent seen ONE fact published by you that turned out to hold water.
I might fall into the same trap mysefl ,so i will not publish more until something substantial can be proved. when and if that happens, i will share it with you guys here, so you can take a critical look at it.
i will disclose,though, that the person was quite known during his lifetime. he was ca 40 years old during the killings. he was a tutor in anatomy at the London Hospital in Whitechapel. he knew the area very well. everyone i have read describing this man, talks about very dark strains in his personality, and there is an extraordinary number of reports about his sinister personality in private and public. he was notorious for his cruelty towards women. he is described by some of Britains most outstanding persons, including Winston Churchill, who met him as a young man.
interestingly enough, this person is appearing under his own name, but as a fictional character in several works of fiction related to the Ripper. he even appears in a Sherlock Holmes story, although not one of Doyle’s originals, but one of the modern stories from our time.
Go to the search box at the top and type in Ripper, or Sherlock, or Dracula, or Doyle – and get some more links between these different characters. The speculations in these posts are based on interpretations of well known artifacts, but I did use these clues to locate what may be Brendan’s anchor. Finding such a unique object buried in the middle of a field in a remote place based on published clues convinced me that Doyle was leaving these clues so he would eventually be discovered as a hoaxer. The clues are such that he will continue being resurrected and reread for thousands of years by future sleuths.
oh i did, as you know. nothing adds up the way you claim. sometimes you call it “speculations”, other times you claim to KNOW that Doyle is the one, like when you “informed” cinema-goers at the Sherlock Holmes movie. this is not honest research.
WHAT utter nonsense. Conan Doyle was honorable and a lover of all women. He was in fact the antithesis of Jack the Ripper. Shame on you for attempting to dirty his glorious name and image.
This blog makes assertions with proofs. You may not like the assertions or the proofs, but please offer counter assertions with their proofs. Just saying that you disagree will not move the search forward or backward either.
i have posted info here earlier that proves that while you have many assertations, you have nothing like proof. i have shown you again and again that your Doyle/Ripper theory is nonsense, most of all because what you claim is proof, is nothing but utter nonsense.
If you can’t see the similarity of – IAC D Surgen – and – JAC D Ripper – and several other similar parallels then I will respect your right to doubt. The fact that Doyle left any clues at all that he committed their heinous crimes would be astonishing, and yet, there are so many of these clues it seems impossible that they weren’t left intentionally. I can see the similarities and would hope you will defend my right to see those things and publish them for other people to make their judjments.
oi, here we go again. Doyles initials was AICD, not IACD. since you must insist on change facts to make it fit with your theory, your credibility is lower than nothing. i havent seen one of your so called clues that holds water in any way. f.e., explain to me the meaning of the D betweenin relation to Surgen/Ripper?
The letter “d” as in the “Jack the Ripper” sequence is a common spelling in some European languages of the English word “the”. Thus Doyle’ initials AICD, or his simple permutation IACD
I am surprised the public hasn’t complained about Dear Boss being converted to “By Arthur Conan Doyle”. Each of these two confessions as to Jack’s identity are literary games of which IACD was a master player. Go read his, The Dancing Men again to see a simple illustration.
If you want to see even flimsier accusations of possible Jack the Ripper suspects go to the Wikipedia article. In my analysis at least there are testable hypothesis and in those suspects cases there only untestable accusations. Take Druitt for example; the only solid evidence against him was that he was found dead in the river and the murders stopped. In my accusations I can show where exactly the same naming technique was used in other totally unrelated and unique crimes. The Drake Plate of Brass is an easy example.
Hi Probaway, just to let you know I’m still on the trail, I have collected some clues but will not bombard you until I put something together. ACD is also helping along the way so we are not entirely alone on the search. I’m sure as you mention if it was his desire to be eventually found out, he will be, he was very clever at that sort of thing.
can you pls tell us something actually being based on FACTS? not just homespun theories? your initials “proof” is indicative of your modus operandi. but it wont do.
you wrote:
“This blog has posted unequivocal clues pointing to the identity of Jack the Ripper for several months.”
this is a blatant lie. based on your own choice of words. unequivocal clues ? pardon me…
poem acd ware holes anagram ale whores take a look arthur means noble conan means wolf doyle means dark lnvader gaelic in origin
thoroughly enjoyable reading, without the inquisitive mind, no crimes would be solved. i have always had my suspicions about ACD. i believe he is ambidextrous as he uses his left and right hand. pictures show writing with right but uses his left to smoke pipe? and dont forget it is shown that most criminals of the macabre type lead the life of a very normal person to friends and those who know them. Also, rubbish as it may seem, on Most Haunted they were discussing a location in Devon where apparently it is thought that ACD might have been involved in poisoning someone and stealing a script?? for those with the time, that may be worth investigating. In the video above, ACD talks about ‘experimenting’ facts for his writings…could he have done so..and some have also mentioned that Jack may not have worked alone? I will watch this site with enthusiasm…have been massive ripper reader for donkeys…one of the first questions i will ask when i get to the pearly gates haha!(pardon the pun)
PLEASE DO KEEP US UPDATED ON YOUR FINDINGS ABOUT THIS MATTER. I AM LOOKING FORWARD ON READING MORE OF YOUR ANALYSIS. I HAD THIS FEELING FOR YEARS THAT DOYLE IS JACK AND YOU MADE MY HYPOTHESIS EVEN MORE REASONABLE. BUT STILL, I ADORE ACD MUCH MORE AFTER READING YOUR BLOG. EVIL BUT HELLA FREAKIN’ GENIUS.
One of the signs of Doyle’s genius is that 120 years after Sherlock Holmes became popular he is still one of the top TV shows. Furthermore, several of the top movies of the last decade were derived from his work. Jurassic Park and its sequels are among them. I have discovered lots more of Doyle’s clever little antics. He didn’t stop exploring the outer reaches of human behavior with the Jack the Ripper murders. He went on to other things which were just as interesting and that still impact us every day, but are unrevealed. Read my post and apply the methods there and you can find new things too.
Well they say most writers are borderline psychos. So, it is entirely possible that Doyle was the Jack the Ripper. But then again, I’m not willing to accept that the police force back in 1888 was so incompetent that they could not decipher such obvious clues mentioned in the post. I’m sure they did consider these and other facts and dismissed them for being implausible.
Thank you Sam, for that comment. It demonstrates that new ideas go through the progression, from seen as stupid, to rejected as foolish, to possible but improbable, to accepted by a few observant people, to publicized by the media, to obvious to everyone all along. Now the next step is that the authorities were in on it all along, or it couldn’t have happened.
sorry but i so beg to differ! if you actually gave attention to the age of the victims of Jack the Ripper four of them were over the age of 42 one of them was around the age of 24/25. now at 1888 Doyle’s age was 29 which means it’s not him! the killer would have been around the age of 45-50 which will make it easier for him to do his crime for his victims will not suspect anything wrong! don’t u think Doyle was busy studing at that time? or busy writing his novel A Study in Scarlet which was published on the 1887 Conan’s diction would be so much smarter than that! the letters contained grammar and spelling mistakes PLUS the biggest evidance that it’s not him. THE HANDWRITING!!! Conan’s handwriting is so different! Check both the A’s of Conan Doyle and Jack the Ripper they are completely different! Thank u! :)
Okay! I agree with your skepticism. Now, please go read my blog post on The Drake Plate of Brass and apply exactly the same search strategy as has been applied to the Jack the Ripper letter.
Also, check out the same clues in The Kensington Runestone and the Piltdown Man
Charles Scamahorne’s depiction of the relationship between SACD and Jack the Ripper endeavors to point out interesting coincidences, but let’s start with more basic ones. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s (SACD) novel the Brown Hand (1899) in which the victim’s are eviscerated and the disfigurement of the Ripper’s victims. Also SACD completed his medical doctorate in tabes dorsalis: syphilitic myelopathy, I have not been able to trace why he settled on this topic for his doctorate. Had some family member suffered from this? Was it motive? There is also SACD’s “A Study in Scarlet” published in 1886 and the Ripper’s letter written in red ink to Scotland Yard. SACD also demonstrates, in Sherlock Holmes, two distinct characters, that of Holmes and Watson, the former being narcissistic, secretive, an addict and brilliant, while amiable Watson demonstrated a kind of ponderously simple-minded war veteran/physician sidekick character. However, the trwo characters are not completely separate. SACD’s brighter more secretive side shines through Watson’s storytelling.
So, let’s be clear. These kinds of facts are the ground for a good hoax” and SACD loved hoaxes, so he probably wouldn’t have minded today’s notoriety. He would also enjoy being studied in perpetuity. What novelist wouldn’t? However to call any such facts hard and fast evidence does not make it evidence. To my knowledge no handwriting comparison has been done to confirm SACD’s handwriting to the Ripper’s letter to Scotland Yard. Further, the diction, structure and cadence of the Ripper’s letter to Scotland Yard would demonstrate similarities to SACD’s. Also, SACD was never stripped of his medical license or cited for malpractice. Further, Sherlock Holmes was not a killer, but a kind of hyper-observant savant. All in all it doesn’t sound as if there is any surviving physical evidence in the Ripper case or evidence that actually links the Ripper to SACD except interpretations as the one posited above…
Charles Scamahorne’s depiction of the relationship between Sir Arthur Canon Doyle (SACD) and Jack the Ripper endeavors to point out interesting coincidences, but let’s start with more basic ones. In SACD’s novel The Brown Hand (1899) the victims are eviscerated and this is comparable to the disfigurement of the Ripper’s victims. Also, SACD completed his medical doctorate in tabes dorsalis: syphilitic myelopathy, but I have not been able to trace why he settled on this topic for his doctorate. Had some family member suffered from this? Was it motive? There is also SACD’s “A Study in Scarlet” published in 1886 and the Ripper’s letter written in red ink to Scotland Yard. SACD also demonstrates, in Sherlock Holmes, two distinct characters, that of Holmes and Watson, the former being narcissistic, secretive, an addict and brilliant, while amiable Watson demonstrated a kind of ponderously simple-minded war veteran/physician sidekick character. However, the trwo characters are not completely separate. SACD’s brighter more secretive side shines through Watson’s storytelling.
So, let’s be clear. These kinds of facts are the ground for a good hoax” and SACD loved hoaxes. He probably dislike today’s notoriety, but he would also enjoy his work being studied in perpetuity. What novelist wouldn’t? However to call any such facts hard and fast evidence does not make it evidence. To my knowledge no handwriting comparison has been done to confirm SACD’s handwriting to the Ripper’s letter to Scotland Yard. Further, the diction, structure and cadence of the Ripper’s letter to Scotland Yard would demonstrate similarities to SACD’s. Also, SACD was never stripped of his medical license or cited for malpractice. It is also likely that SACD used the Ripper’s modus operandi in his book the Brown Hand ten years later simply for shock value. Further, his Sherlock Holmes character was not a killer, but a kind of hyper-observant savant. All in all it doesn’t sound as if there is any physical evidence linking the Ripper to SACD except by interpretations as the one posited by Mr. Scamahorn, although he’s gotten some good play on it…
Thank you John for your interest, and for reminding me of The Brown Hand. I hadn’t read it for decades, and Doyle is such a pleasure to read, so clear and direct and easy with just enough explanation to make relationships vivid. I reread the Brown Hand and there was the problem with the injury, which in that story was the surgical loss of the ghost protagonists hand, and its eventual replacement, many years later, by the operating surgeon he was pestering. It was replaced, in the story, by one lost accidentally in a recent accident. Evisceration generally applies to the viscera being lost.
John, I liked your statement, “enjoy his work being studied in perpetuity. What novelist wouldn’t?”, because I suspect that is the motivation for Doyle’s hoaxes. There are a great many of them as yet undiscovered, probably the vast majority. But, the search isn’t hopeless because Doyle left precise clues on how to find them, perhaps a unique hoax for every one of his stories. This was illustrated in Jack London’s book Star Rover, which he used in The Drake Plate hoax, where the protagonist is required to touch his magic wand to every single story or be severely punished. I used Doyle clues to find a hoax in Marin county, California, but it was left unrevealed so anyone can follow the clues to the exact spot themselves. That should be convincing to any skeptic.
I agree that my ideas about Doyle are based on interpretations, but they are interpretations of unchangeable facts, like the existence of and writing on the Dear Boss Letter, signed Jack the Ripper.
you’re interpretations is to a large degree NOT based on unchangeable facts, as i have proven to you more than once.
JTR could have been ANYONE! You can’t just narrow it down to one person who was around at that time JUST because he was famous and it would be fun to pin it on an accomplished and critically acclaimed author.
FYI, you should all revisit this. A group of qualified researchers narrowed the suspect list down to a butcher who’s route followed the crime scenes of JTR. He was also seen at the scene of one of the murders. Arthur Conan Doyle was not.
I totally agree! @42 (Google it) You are so right!!!!!!!!!!! These people are idiots who OBVIOUSLY have NOTHING better to do with their time…SAD!
You’re wrong, probaway. The writing is different than Doyle’s, and your point that the ‘l’ looks similar is completely invalid, as around that time everyone was writing their ‘l’s that way…you have nothing better to do than try and pin something on someone who doesn’t even match the current description of Jack the Ripper. 42 (Google it) is right: Jack is suspected to be a butcher. The fact that Doyle was over 6 foot shows that if any of the so called ‘witnesses’ had noticed him they would have noticed and reported it, beause back then it was uncommon to be over around five foot and a half. As for all the stuff about the ‘d’ being ‘the’ and all that shit, it’s stupid and if you went to the police or the FBI with that kind of information they’d kick you to the curb. This isn’t soemthing out of a Sherlock novel.
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Hi Osmosis Jones – Thank you for reminding me that the subject of Jack the Ripper is still interesting, after all it has been quite a while since his “funny little games” ended. Since then something like 160,000,000 people have been killed by other people see – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll
and for Jack’s efforts to be remembered, after that vast number, implies Jack was a really good story teller. He made these very common events astonishingly memorable, and the deeper you dig into the unusual events the more consistently it demonstrates an intelligence directing the story. For example follow the story lines of some of the suspects and their questionable departures from this earth. Come on … how many people get whacked in the head and killed by a windmill?, when it would be so simple to lure someone to the vicinity of a windmill and then whack him, and make it look like the windmill did it. That is the kind of weird non-sequitur event that a crime mystery writer would dream up.
Here’s a clue: the author of this ‘article’ belongs in Broadmoor – ha ha!
Interesting, I have found your written word. However, if you should look at the penmanship on both the “Dear Boss” letter and the cartoon there are distinct differences.
Hi Jim – Doyle, in his Sherlock stories refers occasionally to penmanship and he wrote his stories longhand in a beautiful script. To do that quality of writing requires a lot of practice and gaining control over what is on the paper, and at his level of skill it seems reasonable that he could easily modify the script that he was putting on paper for a single letter. But what is most interesting to me is that he encodes his personal name into the two most prominent things in the letter, 1 – The opening salutation, and 2 – Dear Boss, and the first usage of the infamous name, Jack the Ripper.
Considering Conan Doyle was convinced, contrary to popular opinion even then, that the Dear Boss letter was genuine (and I ain’t saying it isn’t); it would seem strange for him to deliberately draw attention to it, or is that the famous double bluff?
Thank you for the comment Jim. – Doyle refers several times to his association to Jack the Ripper – In his book about his voyage to Australia a woman in an audience accuses him of being the Ripper, and of course he has a witty come-back. But the most curious self referent of all is on his grave stone … Steal true, Blade straight … which possibly refers to his stealing the Irish Crown jewels (which his uncle, the curator of the museum where they were on display, begged him to give back) – and Blade straight seems a quaint reference to his more deadly activities. Also in his book of poetry there is a poem about his personal inner people, some of whom would surly get him hanged, if they were known. Doyle lived well over the edge in his curious form of risk taking.
Ah Probaway, it is so nice to have dispassionate response in discussion of a subject which is so prone to raising folk’s passions!
One theory I am fond of is that which suggests the ripper murders never actually happened and were the work of a conspiracy between the police and community groups to scare prostitutes and the gangs who preyed on them off of the streets; in which case, I would not be at all surprised if Sir Arthur was privy to the fact or indeed involved. With regard to his epitaph, the answer is simple – he was a knight and true to the essence and ideal of chivalry, and he was also an author so for ‘sword’ we may insert ‘pen’.
Since you are a fan of the JTR problem, pray consider this; what do you want to bet that two little mentioned but very fitting suspects knew each other not only as children but also in London during 1888? Do you want to do the research yourself, or shall I just tell you?
RSVP, promptly ;)
By the way, on the thought of codes and coincidences, and to accompany my little question above; the initials of the first three canonical victims, in order, spell ‘Man Aces’ or if you prefer ‘menaces’, such as in law is used to describe blackmail.
Just saying.
Oh, and I’m sure you know the locations of where their bodies were found makes a nice, almost equilateral, triangle.
With the County Court in the middle…
Sorry, misread the map; mightn’t be the County Court right there, definitely is a workhouse though.
Hi Jim – My Jack the Ripper theories make a lot more sense if you look over my Drake Plate of Brass posts. Doyle uses the exact same type of clues on this seemingly unrelated major hoax. The first and last words are his personal name slightly encoded. Doyle was clearly into word games, as was JTR. On the Drake Plate try and find your personal name, or anyone else’s for that matter, and after that probably futile attempt try and find “Sir Conan Doyle”. If finding that doesn’t convince you then I don’t think anything will, except reading Doyle’s “Our Second American Adventure” the chapter on being in San Francisco, and then reading the two clusters of three books each. The first cluster will take you directly to the site where the Drake Plate was found, and the second cluster will take you to where I discovered Erendel’s stone anchor. I haven’t published that location, but it is easy to find if you follow the clues. Doyle may have put down a hoax, with clues, for every one of his stories, and for the travel books for every chapter. That’s a huge number of hoaxes sprinkled throughout the world!!! Go for look for them, you won’t be disappointed, at least I wasn’t.
Doyle murdered his friend with poison he is guilty of a murder but directly the woman Gladys who was married to the victim poisoned him . there was a picture of him looking very healthy then suddenly falling ill from typhoid but Conan doyle was a dr and very knowledgeable of poisons . plus he stole the hound of the Baskerville story. In fact he even made himself a suspect merely by stating he got the idea from his friend lol not very smart Mr Doyle
Don’t wanna bet?
Well, in that case, perhaps you’d prefer the Murder On The Orient Express solution; remember, it’s the one where everyone’s guilty.
Frank says “wake Up”.
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I have thought this myself for years.
Actually the murders were related to a Mary Ann Edwards a blood relative of mine and it was a royal scandal that was being hushed up. You see Mary Ann was related to Henry viii of England. The family are all descended from Robert Edwards the pirate and relative of Agnes with whom Henry was said to have an affair. There’s alot more to the story like links to the holy grail that Henry became almost obsessed about and why he did not respect the Pope . they were trying to murder Mary Ann because of her secrets . I can actually prove this since a very close relative of hers is buried in the same cemetery as my grandmother who was her great niece. A John Edwards
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Having sat down today to begin the ACD body of Sherlock Holmes works, I find myself not having progressed far at all. Somewhere about 30 minutes or so into the first work, I wondered what Sherlock Holmes would have thought of JTR. Finding the thought to distracting, I decided to do a quick google search to see if this was tackled in any of ACD’s works. Some near 24 hours later, I have yet to climb out of this rabbit hole. I wasn’t going to contribute anything to this conversation, but one little bit of info that I ran across on wikipedia has prompted me to write this. Before I say what I found, though, I would like to say this. Thank you for discussing this. Regardless of how I process all of this, it’s caused me to abruptly shift my perspective in a rather significant and staggering way. I hope that something comes of this, and considering how it’s impacted me so far, that seems likely. So thank you for your shedding some light on such a thought-provoking idea. The implications of this, if it is true, is something that continues to send shock waves through my mind, preventing me from sleeping for more than 30 minutes at a time all night long. I simply can’t rest with this idea turning over and over in my mind, continually revealing additional facets for me to consider. Though this probably sounds overly dramatic, the fact is, it’s left me reeling. True or not, as I continue my original quest to read the body of ACD works related to Holmes, I realize I will be a much more active participant in this process than I would have been prior to discovering your posts at the very least. I will end my comment with the information I found on wikipedia that left me convinced that the idea of ACD as JTR is not something I can dismiss as a real possibility:
“Doyle had a longstanding interest in mystical subjects. He was initiated as a Freemason (26 January 1887) at the Phoenix Lodge No. 257 in Southsea. He resigned from the Lodge in 1889, but returned to it in 1902, only to resign again in 1911.”
The dates of his initial initiation and resignation leapt out at me. The connection seems evocative to me, being so close to the time of the murders.
I think you want Jack the ripper to be Conan Doyle and you are making the pieces fit the way You want them to fit.
What you are saying is congestive only.
I hope it’s Ok for me to reply to you. it is fair comment you make as there is not substantial proof, but is rather strange that the host made this statement but also, I was on similar lines of thinking having read biography of Conan Doyle many years previously. I discovered this blog several years later. But apart from picture identity of Doyle looking like Jack the Ripper description given by a eye witness lady at that time around 1888 very little else has been found. But many things I read about Conan Doyle in his biography convinced me it is possible he was Jack the Ripper. Not just because he used ha ha, in letter to his mother. So I still feel it is possible but not certain. He like Jack enjoyed playing games with the police, Claiming Jack had also visited the police station. Did he mean it was him or the tiny clues he left were just all hoaxes. Long time since I read the Biography.
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It is right to be skeptical about a single set of clues pointing to Conan Doyle being a hoaxer, therefore I encourage you to read the clickthroughs to other hoaxes I think he did and compare the techniques he used for disguising his name. The Drake Plate of Brass – the foundation document of the British Empire has the same methods for revealing Doyle as the author of these events.
I suspected C Doyle, was Jack the Ripper from the time I read his biography about 20 years ago, I subtly mentioned it in a novel I wrote/published 2003. He was not expert surgeon, but skilled enough to use those instruments, appeared to have bloody mind or blood lust, comes out in his fiction, but many other writers of the times also were like minded, likes of Bram Stoker for example. He was ardent sailor, though don’t think he enjoyed the hardship, but not disturbed by the killing of defenceless sea/land creatures. He hated prostitutes. The famous Jack the Ripper letter to the police does seem to have his style about it, but even if he did write it there would still be no proof he was Jack the Ripper, it could be seen as just another of his hoaxes. Be interesting to know had he used various styles of writing other than his own style. Just to see how different he could make it look. The eye witness description is only positive piece of evidence we have other than that there is nothing after all many people put ha ha as they do today when writing a letter. By dressing as a woman another prostitute might not see him as a possible threat, maybe that was how he got close to them. He had to use some disguise as his face would most likely have been pretty well recognised at that time. Targeting prostitutes that worked alone, maybe these bloody killings also part of his publicity ideas to increase sales of his novels. I could be wrong but still hold to what I thought many years ago, that it is very possible C Doyle is Jack the Ripper. Not sure he liked horses much either.
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Ludicrous. Methinks the author of this article has too much time to think!
When investigating yes people do take the time.
Doyle was a man that shown us he is JTR. He has all the skills to be the man. Being a member of high society gives him the reputation to not be seem as such a person but he left clues. He ledt them at crime scenes by the way he wrote a mesaage on the wall. He lived as a man that freed criminals including one’s that committed crimes of mutilation. I could go on but if you study and learn who the man was you will then see who the really was.
Hi. I have been saying that Doyle writtings have Ciphers in them that he tells people his furture plans, that he is JTR, and I’ve said with his skills as a doctor, skills in law, a writer, knowledge of police patrol, his own hate for prostitutes, that he was Jack the Ripper.
This is the first I have read this passage and I say… It is cool to find someone that can see it too.. Him being a Freemason and them using ciphers for centuries shows he has knowledge of that too.
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It’s been confirmed without a shadow of a doubt, just not highly publicized yet. A Spanish forensic graphologist and investigator from Barcelona matched the handwriting in the letter “From Hell” to Arthur Conan Doyle’s handwriting. His name is Jesús Delgado. Look for his book “Informe Policial: La Verdadera Identidad de Jack el Destripador.”
Let’s remember Conan Doyle for his wonderful productions but also remember that he chose to do his secret crimes that were to become world-famous as a way of resurrecting his name, his writings, and his fame many years in the future. He left a trail of crimes and hoaxes but he also left a trail of clues on how and where to discover them. When you search his stories there will be clues that will lead you directly to hoaxes. I know this to be true because I found one using this technique to find an ancient stone anchor on a hill above Home Bay, California. It appeared to be St. Brendan’s calling card. But, whatever it was, it was exactly where Doyle pointed to with his clues.
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WHY was this piece of filth allowed to stay on your site? I was about to tell you something quite substantial abotu Doyle. This makes me pause greatly.
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